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Date:      Thu, 23 Jun 2022 04:14:40 -0400
From:      grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Cc:        postmaster@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,  freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Posting Netiquette [ref: Threads "look definitely like" unreadable mess. Handbook project.]
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>> the =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93> ;=C3=A2=E2=82=AC  and leave empty lines betwe=
en your text and the original

> Seems there is a charset mismatch.
> MUA displaying nonsense
> Oh the joy of UTF-8... ;-)

https://unicode-table.com/en/sets/quotation-marks/

The pages ...

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/eresources/#eresources-mail
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/freebsd-questions/
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/

... are intermixing standard ASCII double quotes with questionably
gratuitous choice of using left and right double quotes via UTF-8,
which then may get slaughtered by non UTF-8 enabled cut-paste,
systems, lists, gui's, desktops, apps, and MUAs along the way.

Perhaps smack the typeset within all pages back down to ASCII,
except where no standard ASCII convention is available to
substitute for symbols, ie: (c) is the fine sub for =C2=A9,
and ASCII still fits within UTF-8 meta declarations, which may
be needed for =E2=82=BF which has no ASCII substitute, and of
course for presenting non ASCII languages.

And perhaps systems can consider enabling UTF-8 if needed
to render and handle things like =E2=82=BF, say for whenever foundation
gets to accepting those easy donations and crowdfunding.

No idea what the ';' in the '=E2=80=9C> ;=E2=80=9D' is doing there for.

A proper page would need to add a number of the missing
email formatting netiquettes (such as no HTML), and actual
photo examples of former bad chaos and new good result, etc...
to be considered a good format, subject, and addressing
netiquette guide rule page.

Consider if "FreeBSD Articles" is best hier for a page that
may becoming more often directly linked or included into
prospective list user's signup clickstream, quarterly admin,
friendly cluebat hints, etc.

And it's mostly written to apply only to -questions
when it should be completely agnostic.

So the pages may be currently serving lesser preventive
or curative use as far as lists could go.


> Unless there is a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
> and to FreeBSD-questions.

Well for subscription-required-to-post lists, only list-reply
is needed... which also follows address line bloat minimization,
reduces personal reply issues, reduces "Stop copying me
direct when I'm on list", etc.


> Arguably these recommendations should be separated out into their own pag=
e.

Such soley dedicated content would make the page easier
for people to link to wherever such reference is needed.
The current pages don't, and they're bleeding [partially] duplicated
and differing guidance content across each other.

If the page was good enough, it would get picked up
by search engines and other projects.


[-current, and even -questions, could probably be dropped
now, for -doc, or wherever else is best.]



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