Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> Cc: Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>, Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity Message-ID: <CANCZdfpEP4SUGTE9LAOiEyEPaHps-b8a0v81yG-PK4skV37tPA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20220619140624.21263e46@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20210520180155.3e23500e@bsd64.grem.de> <20210520185917.GL14975@funkthat.com> <CAG6CVpWpDYid9F0fSWyyFVuh6SuNmV4HwEBQUKTCXDGfq6KwAw@mail.gmail.com> <YKe3coCxotoKBV0T@submonkey.net> <CANCZdfoJPB=-WMqH_Hd5ggGmY4GR2L7RJZpa_e9a2_ym5R4ZZA@mail.gmail.com> <20220619140624.21263e46@bsd64.grem.de>
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--000000000000f3b27405e2209bed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:06 AM Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600 > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it = differently on > > > > stable > > > vs > > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbose= form, > > > > which isn=E2=80=99t the default). > > > > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, but > > > I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that there > > > is a default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone who > > > does not. Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone > > > who does not know how to get rid of it, then it should default to > > > not being displayed, IMHO. > > > > > > > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to > > the old behavior. > > > > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging > > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems. > > > > Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE production > system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINFO still outputs > kernel stack information. > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576 for those who wish to weigh in. Warner > Cheers > Michael > > -- > Michael Gmelin > --000000000000f3b27405e2209bed Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:06 AM Micha= el Gmelin <<a href=3D"mailto:freebsd@grem.de">freebsd@grem.de</a>> wr= ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px= 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br> <br> On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600<br> Warner Losh <<a href=3D"mailto:imp@bsdimp.com" target=3D"_blank">imp@bsd= imp.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies <<a href=3D"mailto:ceri= @submonkey.net" target=3D"_blank">ceri@submonkey.net</a>><br> > wrote:<br> > <br> > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote:=C2= =A0 <br> > > > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to defa= ult it differently on<br> > > > stable=C2=A0 <br> > > vs=C2=A0 <br> > > > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more = verbose form,<br> > > > which isn=E2=80=99t the default).=C2=A0 <br> > ><br> > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be differen= t, but<br> > > I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that the= re<br> > > is a default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone w= ho<br> > > does not. Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone<= br> > > who does not know how to get rid of it, then it should default to= <br> > > not being displayed, IMHO.<br> > >=C2=A0 <br> > <br> > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to<br> > the old behavior.<br> > <br> > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging= <br> > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems.<br> > <br> <br> Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE production<br> system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINFO still outputs<br> kernel stack information.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht= tps://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576</a>; fo= r those who wish to weigh in.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div><div= >=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px = 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Cheers<br> Michael<br> <br> -- <br> Michael Gmelin<br> </blockquote></div></div> --000000000000f3b27405e2209bed--
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