Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:08:35 -0700 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture Message-ID: <CAOgwaMtDLXydSiMUukqUV3TxXnxHURVsJu%2Bfxy94yaXwddaeMQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86wqsmpmb0.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <CAF6rxgnYOwAPnpykTAN-Eu=oeee_uBMt1ud8U4RpyKLO5S257Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAOgwaMt2Qvt8c4YvRLJ23sqpODvb00XgwY7Czr%2BJVALXmK1wLA@mail.gmail.com> <86wqsmpmb0.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> wrote=
:
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> writes:
> > At present, there is NO any processor which is ONLY 32-bits.
>
> All the world is not a PC. There are still 32-bit x86-based embedded or
> small-form-factor systems, such as the soekris net5501 and net6501,
> which are widely used in the BSD community.
>
> DES
> --
> Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no
>
These are special purpose systems and they are not developed by , let's say
, "ordinary" users . Therefore , their developers may maintain the existing
i386 branch as a specialized branch with a freedom to tailor it to more
specific needs .
Since I am not a developer or user of such a system , I can not say whether
25000 packages are necessary for them or not . Reducing any amount of work
load which its outcome is not directly used is a contribution to the
FreeBSD project by diverting such efforts to other man power or resources
required areas .
When costs are considered , some times 64 bit capable systems are not so
expensive :
As an example : From a computer shop in Turkey with many branch shops :
Memory : 1 Giga Bytes chips : From $27 + VAT to $40 + VAT
4 Giga Bytes chips : From $31 + VAT to $43 + VAT
There is NO reason to buy 4 x ( 1 Giga Bytes ) , when the difference is a
few dollars with 4 x ( 4 Giga Bytes ) .
AMD Sempron 145 AM3 2.8GHz processor is $ 34 + VAT which is 64 bits capable
.
As I said above , I am not able to make knowledgeable comparisons about
such systems
but my opinion is that these specialized systems are not so much
advantageous .
Thank you very much .
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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