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Date:      Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:40:36 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: very slow scsi performance
Message-ID:  <19980219114036.07982@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980218181631.46512@awesome.us.dell.com>; from Jerry_Dunham on Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 06:16:31PM -0600
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980218090826.19271C-100000@misery.sdf.com> <199802182146.OAA25726@pluto.plutotech.com> <19980218181631.46512@awesome.us.dell.com>

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I forwarded a message to a friend who works at a large computer
manufacturer.  Here's his reply.  He asked that the name of the
manufacturer not be revealed.

On Wed, 18 February 1998 at 18:16:31 -0600, Jerry_Dunham wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 02:43:48PM -0700, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
>
>>>> Without a doubt, IBM.
>>>
>>>  I have some doubts about that.  Seagate Barracuda work really well
>>> too.  20 drives in 24x7 so far, and no failures.
>>
>> Many recent Seagate drives are okay, but when I have the choice, I pick
>> IBM over Seagate.  This has as much to do with reliability as with how
>> well behaved SCSI protocol wise, the IBM drives are.  Their firmware is
>> rock solid and their reliability numbers leave Seagate in the dust.
>>
>> Granted, Pluto has been using mostly Seagate drives in it's Video DDR
>> products for some time now, but there has always been the desire to use IBM
>> instead.  Now that IBM is making a strong move to better support the
>> standard retail channel and will guarantee drive allocation to other than
>> IBM internal customers (IBM is it's own biggest customer when it comes to
>> storage products), it looks like this will be possible.  The last time I
>> saw the Seagate rep, he was pissing his pants over IBM. 8-)
>
> FWIW, IBM isn't perfect.  We've had some serious firmware issues with
> them at times, though Seagate is no better, and the 1.6 GB drive we're
> now using as our smallest was initially rather fragile (while the 1.4
> and 2.1 were solid).  This, of course, only applies to the 2.5-inch
> drives, but it's an indication that IBM doesn't walk on water.  Based
> upon what I see internally (and I don't see everything), I'd choose
> IBM first, Fujitsu second, Quantum third, and Seagate fourth, but that
> ranking could easily be scrambled if you based it upon individual
> products, rather than overall records.

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