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Date:      Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:13:46 +0200
From:      Marc Recht <marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
To:        "Matthew Emmerton" <matt@gsicomp.on.ca>
Cc:        drosih@rpi.edu, phk@critter.freebsd.dk, sheldonh@starjuice.net, alex@big.endian.de, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: expat2 in the base system?
Message-ID:  <20021003161346.65fa752d.marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
In-Reply-To: <007f01c26ae2$09b11ab0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>
References:  <3632.1033651189@critter.freebsd.dk> <007f01c26ae2$09b11ab0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>

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> > Any famous last words before the fat lady sings ?
I think we should go for it. :)

> Well, playing the devil's advocate -- isn't this the type of discussion the
> preceeded the introduction of Perl into the base system, the introduction of
> which created such a mess that we finally took Perl out of the base system
> in -CURRENT?
But expat is only one header and one lib. (IMO xmlwf shoudn't be in the base system. Anyone who needs it should install the expat port..)

> Now I realize that expat is much less complicated than Perl, but have we
> fully addressed interoperability concerns?  I know that the /usr vs
> ${LOCALDIR}distinction between the base system and ports fixes most of them,
> at least for experienced users.
> 
> My biggest concern is the minority of users installing expat2 from
> ports/packages and then not being able to figure out how to use it, since
> they always get expat1 since /usr/bin comes before /usr/local/bin in $PATH.
There's no bin. (Except the uneeded xmlwf..)
> I'm sure there will also be issues with autoconf-based ports that don't do
> proper version checking of libraries which will pick up static libs /
> headers from /usr instead of /usr/local as well.
If we rename the lib and the header there shouldn't be a problem.

(But there also woudn't be a problem if it's called expat and we keep the version up-to date... IMO if it is expat - it should be called expat. But I could also live with an expatXYZ..)

Marc

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