Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:18:50 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@spymac.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, Tyler Gee <geekout@gmail.com> Cc: Moh Bana <moh_bana@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: CD's ? Message-ID: <200411200318.51186.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <6e01203b0411171002737cff49@mail.gmail.com> References: <BAY101-F27uQsLbtbS80000155f@hotmail.com> <6e01203b0411171002737cff49@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday 17 November 2004 10:02 am, Tyler Gee <geekout@gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&r >ls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=md5sum+windows&btnG=Search > > I have never downloaded from a BitTorrent so I am not sure how that > would change things. I wouldn't inherently trust it because that > means it is not coming from an official source and someone could > basically be planting a security hole in your distribution that you > would never find. Well, the way it works is files are divided into pieces, and each is hash checked (depends on the client, but most do this) - clients act concurrently as servers even as a file is being downloaded, as chunks of the file become available. I suppose it's possible to beat the hash checking, but it's fairly trivial to verify the files with a good degree of certainty once they're done. The torrents themselves are hosted on a core developer's page on the fbsd site. I have downloaded all the 386 ISOs to help seed them and take part in this (even though I updated through cvsup from 5.2.1 through all the betas to 5.3), as it does lessen the strain on the mirrors - plus, I'm not really a programmer, so I want to do something to help out. - jt > > -wtgee > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:54:59 +0000, Moh Bana <moh_bana@hotmail.com> wrote: > > How do i check if the dowloaded files are not corrupt .... Theirs a file > > called > > CHECKSUM.MD5 how i verify this with Wndows. > > > > Thanks alot. If i downloaded the files from Bit torrent would the > > checksums be different thus causing an error? e.g i donwloaded Disc1 > > from FTP server and 2 from Bit torrent. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Tyler Gee <geekout@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: Tyler Gee <geekout@gmail.com> > > To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz> > > CC: Moh Bana <moh_bana@hotmail.com>, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: CD's ? > > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:02:17 -0700 > > > > > > > > I tend to install based off of the mini disc, harden the system, then > > cvsup and start pulling in and installing everything else. > > > > Also, I think if you are going to be installing -current, you might as > > well do the boot only disc and then do and FTP install, that way you > > are actually getting the most current -current. If you are doing a > > stable install you might want to just get disc1 and disc2 > > > > -wtgee > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:15 -0600, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. > > > > <kdk@daleco.biz> wrote: > > > Moh Bana wrote: > > > > Which cd is just required to install Freebsd ... i downloaded the > > > > 5.3 iso's, their seems to be some confusion their 4 cd's? > > > > > > > > 2 ISO's ranging from 600mb + > > > > and one boot cd that is 20-30mb > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the freebsd with X .... that big? > > > > > > Probably not. FreeBSD without X might be 400MB+. That > > > said, it really depends on a lot of factors, since FBSD is > > > so customizable. > > > > > > Before I go on, two disclaimers. 1] newbies@ isn't > > > a place for technicalquestions, and 2] I don't use the > > > ISO's myself.... > > > > > > Now, to debug those, 1] maybe your ?? isn't so technical, and > > > 2] the naming scheme of the ISO's isn't that hard. > > > > > > Bootonly is what it says. A bootable CDROM with the installer, > > > and maybe some other stuff; but you'll need to be ready to > > > grab the code from another source (like via FTP). > > > > > > "miniinst" is a CD that gets you the "minimum" installation of > > > FreeBSD; what's called "the base system". No GUI; nothing > > > that's not maintained by the Project itself. You could make > > > an SMTP server with it, an FTP server, NTP server, a shell server, > > > or ... well, you can't do much else that I can think of*, but the > > > point is, it's FreeBSD, the system is operable, and you can add > > > just about anything you want from there. The CD contains the > > > installer, the binaries and manpages, crypto, contributed (GNU > > > and other) software (including the compiler), in short, everything > > > that's maintained by the Project itself (i.e., nothing from the ports > > > tree). Also, no documentation except the aforementioned manual > > > pages. > > > > > > "Disc 1" and "Disc 2" contain enough to get you going pretty big time. > > > In addition to the "base system", you can expect full source code tree, > > > the full ports tree, and enough tarballs in /usr/ports/distfiles to > > > build X, a bunch of window managers and DE's, servers of every > > > description, a number of programming languages, system utilities, > > > networking tools, games, etc., etc. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Kevin Kinsey > > > DaleCo, S.P. > > > > > > *FreeBSD maintains Sendmail, NTP, OpenSSH, and FTPD in > > > the source tree, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you know > > > much about 'Nix-like OSes, you can get going with a minimum > > > install. I don't know of anyone who uses a minimum install only ... > > > hmm, unless it's for one of the aforementioned, or a gateway, > > > or a router, or a firewall .. which I seem to have forgotten in the > > > above. In short, the reason there's 4 CD's is because there's > > > a lot of flexibility in FBSD ... and probably, the reason there > > > aren't more is because you've gotta keep things simple > > > somehow ... > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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