Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:31:11 -0500 (EST) From: Open Systems Networking <opsys@mail.webspan.net> To: Rob Schofield <schofiel@xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-R and Scanner recomendations for CD archiving of records? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95.980317162415.10950H-100000@orion.webspan.net> In-Reply-To: <350EE7DC.78D6@xs4all.nl>
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On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Rob Schofield wrote: > Comments: > > A significant number of "failures" in CD-R media are primarily due to > operator problems (read the book!) > > If you mix IDE & SCSI read and write drives, you're GONNA have problems, > so stick to SCSI & SCSI, IDE & IDE. > > The system basically should not be doing ANYTHING other than swap, so > knock out EVERYTHING before you start. > > You need to have SIGNIFICANTLY more buffer space than is recommended > (2-3X), and you are far better building an image on a hard disk rather > than copy CD-CD. A bucket load of unecessarily free RAM helps too. > > Hard disks really need to to be in large block mode, or multi-sector; > 7,200 RPM drives seem to be almost obligatory. DISABLE read cache on > SCSI drives. Adjacent SCSI IDs are a good idea for the two drives > involved in the read and write, with the Write drive at SCSI ID 6 > (highest bus negotiation priority). > > It would not be possible to produce blanks without a conformal > passivating layer below the foil coating; since it is vapour deposited > gold with only a few microns thickness, this would simply rub off in > your hand when you picked it up out of the jewel case (due to body fats > and acids, and no, 10 um of gold is NOT sufficiently resistant to acid > of any kind - think about the layer UNDER the pourous vapour deposit > layer!) > > The quality of the lasers in many write drives is currently suspect; > additionally, laser diodes do not take kindly to poorly-smoothed > switched mode power supplies which are heavily loaded (as is typical in > cheapo, 200W tower boxes). Reduce the number of cards in your box, and > the number of drives. Alternatively, make sure you have a good power > filter and a power supply of at least 320 W. What are you doing running > a Pentium machine with under 300W, anyway? > > If anyone feels they have defective media, most of the reputable > manufacturers offer some kind of replacement warranty; however, most of > the time, there ISN'T anything wrong, so you'll probably be > disappointed when yousend them back. Why, did you think the major > manufacturers would risk their reputations by selling crap media? Ho ho > Jolly Ho. > > If anyone has any "defective" CD-R blanks, then PLEASE send them to me, > as I would find free disks to be a most attractive little perk! > > Sorry about the flame; this thread appears to be gaining mythical > proportions, with a lot of hearsay entering reality as "fact". Please, > ladies and gentlemen; do not attempt to accelerate the acceptance of > myths. Research your facts properly before making unverifiable > statements; also, bide your time and wait for the decent, > second-generation WRITERS which is where the problem *really* lies. Rob, What you say above is probably true. But I think you have just backed up my 2nd post about using a more reliable media than CD-R like punchcards. I mean look at all the work involved in your steps above to do archiving. reliably :) It would be MUCH easier, and more reliable for me anyway to just grab a SCSI DAT drive and archive away. I dont mean to tear down your obvious love of CD-R, but your guidelines are like that of windows. You can run windows reliably! Just only run it on tuesdays, BUT you have to have a black cat ON the monitor, AND it has to be past sunset!! And some holy water never hurts :) I still say after my CD-R problems it's a better choice to just use a SCSI DAT tape drive. More storage, and will last far longer in my opinion than CD-R which is aparently quite finicky for more people than just myself. But as I said it's just my opinion! :) FLAME ON! Chris -- "I am closed minded. It keeps the rain out." <---- True to my word! ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.5 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message
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