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Date:      Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:48:36 +0200
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Timekeeping [Was: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/vmstat vmstat.c src/usr.bin/w w.c] 
Message-ID:  <34506.1129974516@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:27:57 %2B1000." <20051022185422.Q8268@delplex.bde.org> 

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In message <20051022185422.Q8268@delplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes:

>What's a UTC delta?  Deltas don't (shouldn't) depend on the calendar.

As easy as it would be to stick our head in the sand, ignore
international treaties,geophysics and astronomy, point to POSIX and
ignore leapseconds, it is not an feasible way out for us as an
operating system project.

UTC deltas does depend on the calendar for now.

There is proposal from USA to make them DTRT pending in ITU-R Working
Party 7A, but it is meeting fierce opposition from astronomers and
geophysicists who hold the position that we can just ignore computers

Until the future of leapseconds are resolved, something that could
easily take 25 years, we have to deal with them.

So an UTC offect contains any leap seconds we are aware off, and
consequently, it depends on the calendar.

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