Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 00:03:51 -0700 From: Mark Millard via freebsd-bugs <freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4" [really: list interface replacement generates bad textual content] Message-ID: <212C2CA4-4280-448F-A639-1B7B3E6DE356@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3AF15926-17A0-4577-A673-AC35BE64BA7B@yahoo.com> References: <1120D222-A28B-447B-9121-726BC8F49A7F.ref@yahoo.com> <1120D222-A28B-447B-9121-726BC8F49A7F@yahoo.com> <20210514210922.ygmuc3oigzd4ogi3@aniel.nours.eu> <9788E8D6-199E-4F48-89DA-F784BCC0CADF@yahoo.com> <5deb443a-316f-46b8-ada2-7f66893b5ffa@FreeBSD.org> <8AFC5AD7-8F1F-4980-BB26-62038380946E@yahoo.com> <03DFF722-0473-4306-B1C4-123DBF15B955@yahoo.com> <D34C4B97-C636-445E-87DB-5AA26438D912@yahoo.com> <c2022060-26b0-49b2-b2c3-416124b17937@FreeBSD.org> <9B7D4B8B-DD04-4119-8B80-548466D4F063@yahoo.com> <64429369-4010-4c99-888b-3460d9d9141e@FreeBSD.org> <3AF15926-17A0-4577-A673-AC35BE64BA7B@yahoo.com>
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On 2021-May-17, at 23:55, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2021-May-17, at 23:37, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt at FreeBSD.org> = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> 18 mai 2021 06:50:03 Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>: >>=20 >>> On 2021-May-15, at 22:22, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> 16 mai 2021 05:29:07 Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>: >>>>=20 >>>>> In exploring I've seen various web-page presentation of >>>>> freebsd-bugs messages that seem to be messed up. An >>>>> example is: >>>>>=20 >>>>> . . . >>>>=20 >>>> Nice catch, I will fix it >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The extra text disappeared when I later looked at the >>> pages via the URLs. >>>=20 >>> But I've run into another oddity. I did a google >>> search for: >>>=20 >>> "Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin" >>>=20 >>> and then used the 1st link shown, the one from the text: >>>=20 >>> QUOTE >>> https://lists.freebsd.org =E2=80=BA freebsd-arm =E2=80=BA = 2019-December >>> Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin ... >>> Dec 2, 2019 =E2=80=94 Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. = MACCHIATObin Double Shot (A72) for buildworld and via a CPU/cache/RAM = tradeoff-exploring ... >>> END QUOTE >>>=20 >>> which has the link (it is for one of my old messages): >>>=20 >>> = https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D= &ved=3D2ahUKEwiPhp3OtdLwAhVH6Z4KHaXQC68QFjAAegQIAxAD&url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fl= ists.freebsd.org%2Fpipermail%2Ffreebsd-arm%2F2019-December%2F020854.html&u= sg=3DAOvVaw2VHrNUGc-Vce4CjAmTufxq >>>=20 >>> Or, extracting/converting the relevant part of that text: >>>=20 >>> = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020854.html >>>=20 >>> This now takes me to the wrong message on the list, one titled: >>>=20 >>> Re: 64 bit ARM systems with more than four cores Ed Maste >>>=20 >>> Turns out that the my old message now shows up as 2 later >>> by number (020854 -> 020856): >>>=20 >>> = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020856.html >>>=20 >>> gets to the message with the correct title. >>>=20 >>> It appears that the numbering has not been preserved >>> in the conversion. This can make google search results >>> that point into the (older) freebsd lists >>> problematical. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =3D=3D=3D >>> Mark Millard >>> marklmi at yahoo.com >>> ( dsl-only.net went >>> away in early 2018-Mar) >>=20 >> 99.9% of the tume the numbering is preserved, sometimes it is not = given the weirdness of the things that happened in the past. i will dig = into this specific case to see what I can do. But don t expect much = here. >>=20 >=20 > FYI: >=20 > In my "binary search inspired" looking around everything > I looked at that was old but more recent than 2014-Dec-23 > had the offset of 2. Everything older than 2014-Dec-10 > worked. Those dates are as close together as I got. >=20 > (Finding things that have useful google search matches in > a time frame is messy so the results are limited. It > would be nice to find a better way to looking up old > references.) >=20 > Example: >=20 > "lsof on FreeBSD/arm" goggle search click through to page >=20 > vs.: >=20 > Tuesday, 23 December 2014 > . . .=20 > =E2=80=A2 Re: lsof on FreeBSD/arm Larry Rosenman=20 > =E2=80=A2 [Differential] [Commented On] D1317: Build gperf as a = dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste)=20 > =E2=80=A2 [Differential] [Updated, 8 lines] D1317: Build gperf = as a dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste)=20 >=20 > It gets on to the message for last line (still off by two for the > number, like what I reported already): >=20 > By contrast: >=20 > "watchdogd not working anymore (since r273154+)" google search click = through >=20 > vs.: >=20 > Wednesday, 10 December 2014 > . . . > =E2=80=A2 Re: RPi - watchdogd not working anymore (since = r273154+) Andreas Schwarz=20 >=20 > worked. A different possible oddity that I just noticed is that the old system used UTC dates/times, such as: Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com=20 Sat May 1 19:50:18 UTC 2021 (from freebsd-git). But the new one uses various time zones (the senders time zone?), such as: From: Mark Millard via freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm_at_freebsd.org>=20 Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:43:45 -0700 (from freebsd-arm). =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)
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