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Date:      Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:53:26 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Daniel Ortmann <ortmann@sparc.isl.net>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: (over)zealous mail bouncing
Message-ID:  <199707260353.WAA00408@watcher.isl.net>
In-Reply-To: <13063.869763579@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jul 24, 97 09:59:39 am"

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> > I beg to differ.  Most machines which may validly receive email do *not*
> > have valid hostnames.  Using the majority-minority rule, *you* lose.
> > That's reality.  

> That's sure news to me - every machine I've dealt with over the last
> couple of years, absolutely without exception, has had a perfectly
> valid hostname.  What twisted kind of reality do you live in? ;-)

Sir, try to ping my machine.

You can't.

The dns name isn't real.

Or am I misunderstanding?

> And it's also beside the point - I'm not against such machines
> receiving mail, simply generating it.  If they want to generate mail
> then is it so much to ask to have them relay it through a legit host?
> I don't think so.

My .mc file causes sendmail to directly send out the mail, but
munges the mail so that it appears to be coming from the domain
where I can receive my mail.

Upon connection my system uses POP3 to retrieve the mail.

> > Please do not intentionally damage global email.  The system can only

> global email is already irretrievably damaged and quite possibly on
> its last legs.  What we're talking about here are strategies for
> surviving in a post-spammer era and simply ignoring the problem and
> leaving things wide open is not the answer we're looking for here.

Thanks for your comments.

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