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Date:      Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:43:09 -0800
From:      Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>, java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Mozilla core... & HotSpot update
Message-ID:  <20020321234309.GA1607@gnuppy.monkey.org>
In-Reply-To: <15514.3199.968025.626479@caddis.yogotech.com>
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:38:23AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> Actually, mutexes almost always slow things down, so I doubt it's an
> optimization issue.  It's probably to ensure a method is completely
> JIT'd before they allow execution of the new version.
> 
> Nate

It's almost certainly a mixture of things including properly
synchronizing the JIT process. But in the case JITing, you have
a common dictionary that you have to protect so that the possiblity
of multipule threading compiling block into it can proceed in
a non-racy manner. I can't exactly say if this is the case just
yet, but it would make sense if all the executing threads where
able to JIT blocks and/or manage a pool of thread doing the
compiling and inserting the results into a common data structure.

There you still have to protect a common resouce via a mutex of
some sort. That's just basic to threading systems. And having
common coarse grained lock would add a lot contention, so it
would make sense to push that down to each subsystem.

No work last night, I was possibly slightly poisoned by being
around the reminience of burning plastics from a burnt car.
You know, cynanide and all...  I'm fine today.

bill


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