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Date:      Sun, 19 Mar 1995 11:49:42 -0800
From:      "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
Cc:        dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault), freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com
Subject:   Re: Rave rave rave 
Message-ID:  <199503191949.LAA26851@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 18 Mar 1995 18:03:50 PST." <199503190203.SAA22253@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> 

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>> The Windows orientation of sales, and other non-technical "decision
>> makers" involved with computers, is our biggest challenge in
>> furthering FreeBSD in industry.  I have clients who will have
>> burning bamboo splints shoved under their fingernails if Chairman
>> Bill says they should so that they won't miss the second coming of
>> Microsoft.
>> 
>> I've had to "work" with Windows for a few months.  There are many
>> young engineers (yes, you kids out there) who think it is NORMAL
>> to have to power cycle your computer three times a day.  When in
>> desperation I moved some tools to an underutilized Sun system in
>> order to get some work done, and promptly started getting core
>> dumps, one of the kids said, in all honesty, "See?  You have the
>> same kind of problem on Unix".  I just stared at him.  What else
>> could I do? That Sun had 62 days uptime, and he STILL won't grant
>> me that the core dump (and then debug) is better than the power
>> cycle.
>
>Better demo... have something compileing in one window, something
>your debugging in gdb in another, and then produce that core dump.
>
>Now ask this Windoze weenie what would happen to him if he even
>attempted to do that under Windoze...  that usually sinks the point
>home real quick!

Have the Windoze 95 weenie open up DOS debug have him assemble a 
small program that disables interrupts and goes into a tight loop!

>
>> I'll retitle this "Rave rave rave" and I apologize to the list in
>> advance.
>
>:-).
>
>
>-- 
>Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
>Accurate Automation Company                   Custom computers for FreeBSD

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Justin T. Gibbs
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