Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Zimmermann <ulf@Lamb.net> To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Message-ID: <199608012219.PAA29988@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> In-Reply-To: <199608012122.OAA02258@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at "Aug 1, 96 02:22:21 pm"
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> > > > >I show that to be the wholesale price for the KNE40T (TP only), I > > >can see $56.00 retail if you buy in 20 packs at a time. > > > > > How can a 20-pack be retail? > > It is ``retail'' if you are the end user purchaser, ie, if your not buying > the product to resell it to some one else that would qualify as a retail > sale. > > If sales taxes applies in the state then either sales taxes has to be > collected, or use tax payed at the end of the year by the end user, > that would be retail. > > > whats the definition of wholesale these days? > > Purchases from manufacturer or distributor and sold to resellers/VAR's/etc. > > Most distributors will not even talk to you unless your in the business > of reselling and can produce a state resellers license. Large corporations > tend to bend these rules pretty badly, they are not in the business of > reselling computers, but because the do other forms of ``reselling'' they > slip it past the wholesaler, and often even lie on the account application. > > Manufactures won't deal with you unless you can promise them millions of > dollars in annual purchases (ASUS won't sell me motherboards unless I buy 500 > of them/month, Miro won't sell me video cards unless I buy them 520 at > a time, etc, etc.) > > There are like 5 or 6 offical ``wholesalers/distributors'' of Quantum disks, > anyone else is either buying back door units from an OEM who has an overrun > (known as the ``grey market''), or they are buying them from these 5 or 6 > places. > > > I pay the same for 1 as I pay for 50. (maybe I get a dollar). > > there is no "wholesale" in the PC parts business if you know where to go. > > That statement is incorrect. I'll tell you where to go, go try to buy > motherboards from ASUS, or CPU chips from Intel/Wyle/Hamilton Avenet, > they won't even deal with you unless you want to buy 500 to 1000 of them. > THATS wholesale buying. > > Sure ASI and Supercom and all the other distributors will sell you 1 or > 50 at the same price, and I'll beat you that price is more than I or any > other ``real'' PC reseller pays for the same product from the same source, > unless your buying quantity day in and day out you won't ever see real > wholesale pricing. > > If your not getting price breaks at qty 50, your not negotiating prices > very well. On the KNE50T for example, qty one cost for me would be $55.00, > if I buy 20 of them it would be $47.00, a wee bit more than your ``dollar''. > If I where reselling these to you the price delta would be similiar, I pass > on my volume purchase savings to my clients just like everyone else does. > > > Dennis > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com > > > > Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For > > Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame > > Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD > > and LINUX > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD > A difference btw. the single card retail box and a 5/6/20/50/100 box is, you get often only 1 handbook, 1 driver disk, 1 warrenty card with the larger quantity boxes. etc. Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 Lamb Art Internet Services || http://www.Lamb.net/
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