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Date:      Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:42:18 -0400 (EDT)
From:      spork <spork@super-g.com>
To:        dyson@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: usable current SNAP
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971020204004.10242B-100000@super-g.inch.com>
In-Reply-To: <199710190259.VAA01896@dyson.iquest.net>

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Hello,

Since everyone's on the topic, how about this application:

I need to build a big database server, and am looking to run it on a
dual-processor machine.  The database we need to use is mysql, which I
believe can take advantage of 3.0's threads...

Is this wise or not?

Charles

On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, John S. Dyson wrote:

> Greg Lehey said:
> > On Sat, Oct 18, 1997 at 06:55:43PM -0600, Steve Passe wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I need to bring up a web server this week using current.  This needs to
> > > be a "works first time" installation (to impress a client).
> > 
> > I don't understand this.  This is *not* the purpose of -current.  To
> > quote:
> > 
> (good comments from Greg deleted)
> 
> > 
> > If you want to impress a customer, I would have thought that -stable
> > would be a much better choice.
> > 
> The only point that I might disagree with you on is that there are times
> that there are necessary features in -current.  Basically, with -current
> the person who uses it is on their own.  Hopefully, those who use it don't
> end up giving FreeBSD a bad reputation because of the pre-Alpha/Alpha/Beta
> quality of the code.  Important features would be practically the only
> reason for violating the "rule."  -stable and -current aren't that far
> away in performance (it isn't like 2.1 vs. 2.2.), 2.2 and 3.0 are pretty
> close.
> 
> My opinion is that those who use -current in production get absolutely
> no sympathy from me (or most others on the team.)  However, some people
> who are actively contributing to FreeBSD get quite a bit more leeway (I am
> willing to go further out of my way to help) than others.  (They are more
> likely to understand the state of the code, and are generally willing and
> able to help us all more in solving problems that they encounter.)
> 
> But, in general, I agree that it is not a very good idea to use -current
> in production without understanding that the support issues are significant.
> The FreeBSD group of developers are already overloaded, and simply do not
> need the additional problems of supporting -current.
> 
> There is very little more irritating than to be coerced to fix a bug that
> isn't ready to be fixed yet.
> 
> -- 
> John
> dyson@freebsd.org
> jdyson@nc.com
> 




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