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Date:      Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:30:47 +0700 (ICT)
From:      pirat sriyotha <pirat@center.oaep.go.th>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Subject:   Re: Using freebsd-questions
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980715092917.370A-100000@parwati.oaep.go.th>
In-Reply-To: <19980715102533.57907@welearn.com.au>

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On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Sue Blake wrote:

> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:25:33 +1000
> From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Using freebsd-questions
> 
> Recently a few people have mentioned being surprised by some of the
> responses they get to questions posted to freebsd-questions.
> I'm going to try to put this into perspective so that you can make
> sense of the range of interactions you'll see there.
> (Note to those easily impressed: this is all personal opinion)
> 
> When someone answers a question they convey two kinds of information:
> technical and social. Being unix types [and here I duck the flames :-)]
> they tend to express the technical and be unaware of the social
> messages that come through at the same time.
> 
> Add to this the fact that the -questions subscribers are an enormous
> group showing the expected range of human diversity in any large group,
> including making mistakes and needing to learn sometimes, and you'll
> see that we've got an exceptionally good bunch of volunteer supporters.
> Compared to similar newsgroups or mailing lists for other systems,
> they're very well behaved towards newbies and give reliable information
> promptly. I'd like to see it stay that way.
> 
> The technical side of answers works really well. Generally nobody
> answers unless they really know what they're talking about. If there
> are several possible answers you're likely to get them all, along with
> help to decide which way is best for you. If any of these answers
> contains an error, someone will follow up pretty quick and correct it.
> Similar support groups that I've seen elsewhere are plagued by people
> giving wrong advice, which to a newbie is worse than no advice. This
> doesn't happen here. Someone new to freebsd-questions might give a
> half-baked answer once in a while, but peer pressure quickly teaches
> them that FreeBSD people don't do guesses.
> 
> The social side is largely ignored, but to us as insecure newbies it
> can be the most salient feature of our visit to freebsd-questions.
> Again, here we are pretty lucky. The guys who answer most of the
> questions (you know who they are) do so with a level of courtesy and
> understanding that is not easily found elsewhere. They do it because
> they want to help, not to make themselves indispensable heroes, never
> to show off or put anyone down, and that comes across whether they are
> aware of it or not.
> 
> In any large group of people there will be a few who excel, and a few
> who are too new to understand the social environment, or who are there
> for the wrong reasons. On rare occasions you might encounter someone
> answering questions who is misguided, insensitive, or plain wrong.
> 
> If this happens to you, please don't take it as an indication of the
> general feeling of those who help in -questions. Hang around and you'll
> see that they are far from typical, nor do they represent the
> established FreeBSD spirit of quality help for anyone who shows they're
> trying. They need time to learn the social ropes, just like we need
> time to learn the technical ropes. There's no reason to let it upset
> you; it's their problem, not yours. Ignore them and show your
> appreciation for the pleasant majority. Never doubt yourself, and let
> your behaviour as a confident newbie speak for all newbies. Even the
> experts can make mistakes, and they will learn from their own peers
> soon enough if we give them the chance to try.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
> 
> 
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thanks for your informations.

rgds,
Pirat Sriyotha
pirat@center.oaep.go.th


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