Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:47:08 -0500 From: Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com> To: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.performance-computing.com/features/9810of1.shtml Message-ID: <4.1.19981026004520.00a71cf0@genesis.ispace.com> In-Reply-To: <19981026162015.58679@welearn.com.au> References: <4.1.19981025233819.00a458a0@genesis.ispace.com> <4.1.0.67.19981024114643.00a63ad0@genesis.ispace.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810252120100.5879-100000@bytor.rush.net> <4.1.19981025233819.00a458a0@genesis.ispace.com>
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Don't you mean.... umop apisdn? I think it's something like that :) At 04:20 PM 10/26/98 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: >On Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 11:41:51PM -0500, Drew Baxter wrote: >> I'm not saying it like that. >> >> I'm saying that's where Linux teen kiddies come in. Besides, some attacks >> have diagnostic value. While I just got a hardware firewall (and I already >> hate it, I got locked out of my network across the weekend) that claims to >> block certain types of attacks, I may want to check just to see if it >> supports 'newer' ones. >> >> Don't forget, most exploits are posted to databases (i.e. bugtraq) as soon >> as they are discovered. >> >> By the way, Smurf (as well as others) don't compile on FreeBSD because of a >> lack of certain header files that Linux has. If I recall many of them are >> in netinet/... >> >> Also, this is an example. There are some intuitive Linux programs that >> can't compile for the same reason. Sure, people should port, but I'm not >> one to fix 250 various compile errors (of which could be linked to one line >> of code, but still) if I don't have to. So as it goes, I'm forced to have >> a Linux box, a Solaris X86 box, and a FreeBSD box. Of course, I like my >> FreeBSD box most of all, because of how long i've been using FreeBSD. >> >> At 09:21 PM 10/25/98 -0500, Pat Lynch wrote: >> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > >> >personally, good, it "can't compile smurf.c" smurf is a network attack, >> >not a useful tool. >> > >> >personally FreeBSD doesn;t need that kind of "support" if a script kiddy >> >isn;t smart enough to make it compile, then thats great. >> > >> >- -P >> > >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >> > >> >Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net >> >Systems Administrator Rush Networking >> > >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >> > >> >On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Drew Baxter wrote: >> > >> >> Nice article, definitely.. I especially liked the choice of graphic art, >> >> and the remark about Grandma's lung machine.. :) >> >> >> >> I guess the big thing is, the little teenies playing "elite hacker" isn't >> >> going to care about the whole GPL thing. It'd be kinda cool to see the >> >> ability to compile for any OS (ultimate compatibility) so you could tell >> >> FreeBSD "Well this compiled on Solaris.." and set a flag.. The word on >the >> >> teen street is "FreeBSD can't compile smurf.c".. >> >> >> >> I guess a clean-cut userbase is a little better than ones that want to >> >> wreck stuff, but at the same time it's a +1 on the Linux side of >things.. I >> >> installed RHS for a week and immediately killed the box, as it goes I'm >> >> playing with Solaris x86 (cost me 10 bucks, no args here) and I am still >> >> rather distraught of its lack of a C compiler, gzip, etc. so that one is >> >> clearly going out the door as well.. >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Drew "Droobie" Baxter >> >> Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) >> >> OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 >> >> http://www.droo.orland.me.us >> >> My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 >EDT >> >1998 >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >> >> >> > >> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >Version: 2.6.2 >> > >> >iQCVAwUBNjPcp8Gd9jPuKvqVAQHdbgQAtQdpwjDLL2ThzmL/vUmZOTfQ8amOvfuh >> >FGSqSYpukOqXk/me3UspxnX8SCF3WCJrPnXzghp6GFfM2VoEVK/Qj+B/aBqQsOVL >> >jhvi+pI7kEz1zjrtx4+5Fx6N7zA7cqcj+5LVpfHW6JvNHHvzoKQZF1/OHqHKta+W >> >KZFTPZb8WDM= >> >=Afs6 >> >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >> >> --- >> Drew "Droobie" Baxter >> Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) >> OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 >> http://www.droo.orland.me.us >> My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT >1998 >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > >?nwod edispu ffuts siht daer syug uoy od woH > >-- > >Regards, > -*Sue*- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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