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Date:      Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:02:06 +0100 (CET)
From:      Stefan Bethke <stb@hanse.de>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, John Saunders <john.saunders@scitec.com.au>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RE: D.O.S. attack protection enhancements commit (ICMP_BANDLIM)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981204025954.3839N-100000@transit.hanse.de>
In-Reply-To: <199812040034.QAA01418@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Matthew Dillon wrote:

> :Just as a side-note:
> :
> :On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> :
> :> :We should rate-limit ARPs, but don't.
> :> 
> :>     ARP's reasonably rate-limited because most subnets are /24's, it's
> :>     the packets queued up waiting for the ARP to resolve that are the
> :...
> :
> :Actually, arp is already (somewhat) rate-limited.
> 
>     Ah, I see.  I was thinking of the ARP packets themselves but it makes
>     to limit the queued packets waiting for ARP to any given destination IP.
> 
>     If you have a larger subnet, say a class B, an attacker can spoof 
>     sufficient packets (which the machine then tries to reply to) to cover
>     the entire class B... 65536 queued packets waiting for ARP, for example.

Only if you have a large number of unused addresses; for the used ones, a
reply will be received, and subsequently, much less arps will be done.

Stefan

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