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Date:      Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:30:41 -0800 (PST)
From:      Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Thomas Moestl <tmoestl@gmx.net>
Cc:        Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>, <bmah@FreeBSD.org>, <current@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Preparing innocent users for -current
Message-ID:  <20020308152055.M34305-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020308220035.GA4209@crow.dom2ip.de>

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On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Thomas Moestl wrote:

> On Fri, 2002/03/08 at 11:23:36 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> > 3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is "a
> > well-know bug in printf(9)," caused by "The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when
> > printf() is called while sched_lock is held." I reported this bug in
> > October 2001, if anyone wants to look through the archives.
>
> While this issue is still present, printf()s with sched_lock held seem
> to fortunately be quite rare. IIRC your panics were caused by the
> "microuptime went backwards" message, which was recently removed. The
> only other relatively frequently reported printf() in this category I
> can think of at the moment is for the "calcru: negative time..."
> message.

	Well, I have a fairly verbose console on some of my systems, which
is why I think I panic'ed with this problem more than most. Given that
we're opening things to a wider audience, this should be listed as a
gotcha, even if it only affects a small percentage of users.

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