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Date:      Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:27:30 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        ticso@cicely.de
Cc:        alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: special test request for 6.1-BETA1 on ATA disks
Message-ID:  <20060217132730.GA53155@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20060217121659.GO3342@cicely12.cicely.de>
References:  <20060215231911.GB42943@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20060216190512.GA47748@freebie.xs4all.nl> <Pine.SOC.4.61.0602162322290.969@tea.blinkenlights.nl> <20060216225244.GC49268@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20060217121659.GO3342@cicely12.cicely.de>

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:17:00PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote..
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 11:52:44PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 11:23:11PM +0100, Sten Spans wrote..
> > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > > 
> > > >On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:19:11AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote..
> > > >>Folks,
> > > >>
> > > >>I am getting the strong impression that there is something hosed
> > > >>related to ATA at least on the DS10 and DS10L.  Test installs
> > > >>on ATA disks work fine, but the first boot of the installed disk
> > > >>fails miserably, typically the symptom is that the first shell won't
> > > >>start or similar.  I got:
> > > >>
> > > >>Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0a
> > > >>/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libc.so.6: Unsupported relocation type 
> > > >>1611047936
> > > >>in non-PLT relocations
> > > >>
> > > >>Observed on one DS10 and one DS10L.  The problem does not
> > > >>occur when you use a SCSI disk (which I typically do so I missed this
> > > >>before).
> > > >>
> > > >>Those of you who own this machine type and have a spare IDE drive,
> > > >>can you please test it?  Other reports for different system models
> > > >>are interesting too of course.
> > > >
> > > >A check of 5.5-BETA1 would be interesting too.
> > > 
> > > I'll give it a go this weekend on my ds10
> > > (which also normally runs scsi :)
> > 
> > Looks like it is not only DS10, my 164SX has similar probs as well.
> > 5.5-BETA1 and 6.1-BETA1 have it.  In total we have seen it on 2 DS10L,
> > one DS10 and a 164SX now.  SCSI is just fine.  
> 
> Interesting - after an Update of my PC164 from an 5.1 or even older to
> a recent 5.x I noticed lot of mysterious filesystem corruptions that
> did not went away after updating to 6-STABLE.
> Since this is basicly a SCSI machine I moved the IDE disks to an x86.
> I always had the impression of data corruption on those IDE disks, but
> after the update things went much worse so there wasn't any doubt about
> a real problem somewhere.
> IIRC even fsck -n output was different between multiple runs.
> Disk speed before and after the update had a major difference, before
> it was something around 2M/s and after the update I got >10M/s.
> My assumption at that time was a cabeling problem, which was triggered
> by the larger speed.

I cannot speak for the 164sx as I did not have that in house at the time
of 5.1 but my DS10 has at some point worked fine with ATA drives.

-- 
Wilko Bulte				wilko@FreeBSD.org



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