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Date:      Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:27:02 +0400
From:      "Andrew Pantyukhin" <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Robert Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Ed Schouten <ed@fxq.nl>, Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Do we need this junk?
Message-ID:  <cb5206420704070427w366e97a8v654f9b58ae6fb82d@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20070407063804.H30801@fledge.watson.org>
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On 4/7/07, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>
> > "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> writes:
> >> Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> writes:
> >>> We have a LOT  of old systems running around the world.
> >> But the old systems don't need the latest and greatest copy of
> >> FreeBSD! This is why we provide errata / security fixes. The systems
> >> are a static non moving target ???
> >
> > Excuse me?  Who's "we"?
> >
> > Julian, Warner, Scott, Bernd, Giorgios, Wilko, myself and many others who
> > have contradicted you in this discussion are veteran FreeBSD developers with
> > something like a hundred years of industry experience between us.
> >
> > You, on the other hand are just a pathetic little fuck who has repeatedly
> > demonstrated his complete lack of understanding of anything remotely
> > approaching real computers, real software and real life.
> >
> > You do not get to tell us how to run our project.
> >
> > You do not get to say "we".
>
> Guys,
>
> This is getting out of hand.  It's clear that people can and will be running
> FreeBSD on older hardware for a long time to come, and that we can accept or
> disregard this advice -- or even find a middle ground, like determining
> whether shipping additional kernel configurations would help -- without
> turning this into a flame war.

Without seeing des fly off the handle, reading this
thread would be a total waste of time :-)

Love y'all :)


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