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Date:      Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:48:15 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za>
Cc:        Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-rc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r197145 - in head: etc/defaults share/man/man5
Message-ID:  <4AB1F7CF.3080905@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20090917040101.GA69461@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za>
References:  <200909122222.n8CMMV3d099311@svn.freebsd.org> <4AB15FCE.70505@FreeBSD.org> <20090917040101.GA69461@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za>

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John Hay wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:59:42PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> ...
>> Hiroki Sato wrote:
>>> Author: hrs
>>> Date: Sat Sep 12 22:22:31 2009
>>> New Revision: 197145
>>> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197145
>>>
>>> Log:
>>>   The following changes are added because of
>>>   network_ipv6->rc.d/netif integration:
>>>   
>>>   - $ipv6_enable is now obsolete.  Instead, IPv6 is enabled by
>>>     default if the kernel supports it, and $ipv6_network_interfaces
>>>     is "none" by default.  If you want to use IPv6, define
>>>     $ipv6_network_interfaces and $ifconfig_xxx_ipv6.
>> In general I have a problem with the idea of drastically changing the
>> semantics of the current code when I can't see any real value in doing
>> so. I object to this change specifically because on my laptop I really
>> like having the ability to easily disable IPv6 when I am not on my
>> home network.
>>
>> My preferred scenario would be something similar to what we have now,
>> which is that if ipv6_enable is set that it takes the same list of
>> interfaces as ipv4 (defaults to AUTO) and that rtadv is enabled by
>> default for each of those interfaces. My feeling is that this not only
>> significantly reduces POLA it will also more precisely fit the way
>> that the vast majority of our users will actually use IPv6.
> 
> Can we then have it default to ipv6_enable="YES" and let people who do
> not want it, put ipv6_enable="NO" in their rc.conf? Most of the rest
> of the world has changed that we and we were also there a few years
> ago. (Yes I know because we run ipv6 at work and I can see how many
> machines just work without people having to fiddle with it. On the
> FreeBSD boxes you still have to go and enable it. :-((( )

Certainly, I agree that "enabled" should be the default. Sorry if I
wasn't clear about that.


Doug

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