Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:42:48 -0800 From: Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Cc: Joe Holden <lists@rewt.org.uk>, FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Martin Sugioarto <martin@sugioarto.com>, Ronald Klop <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org> Subject: Re: Timekeeping in stable/9 Message-ID: <CAN6yY1tSy6L9BKDe14pN4ax_hcXZPpn7VOpoh26AKVfkDv9vFA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120121154634.GA39172@icarus.home.lan> References: <4F15D643.8000907@rewt.org.uk> <20120118075049.289954e8@zelda.sugioarto.com> <20120121101842.786fc402@zelda.sugioarto.com> <op.v8fok1hw8527sy@pinky> <20120121141151.0ee68aa3@zelda.sugioarto.com> <20120121154634.GA39172@icarus.home.lan>
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 02:11:51PM +0100, Martin Sugioarto wrote: > > Am Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:20:51 +0100 > > schrieb "Ronald Klop" <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org>: > > > BTW: My experience with VBox is that it is nice for hobby stuff, but > > > not for heavy load server stuff. VMWare does a better job there. > > Agreed. > > The number of problems with VirtualBox continues to grow (you should see > my Mail/sent folder sometime). I don't know or why anyone on earth > would use VirtualBox with problems like what's described in this thread, > combined with problems like what's described below (which TMK still > hasn't been addressed): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-February/061642.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-July/063172.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-July/063221.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-July/063322.html > > I would recommend you stick with bare metal, or use something that's at > least well-established like VMware products (Workstation, for example, > is actually affordable, and ESXi is free -- though there have been > problems posted to the list about FreeBSD on ESXi as well). Xen gets > praise here on the lists, but I haven't tried it myself. I stick with > bare metal for everything, sans "tinkering around". > Hmm. The OP has XP as a guest on FreeBSD9. I am unaware that VMware has any software for this purpose. Specifically, the only virtualization system that I am aware can run on FreeBSD as the host is VirtualBox. I won't ague about its many issues and limitations, but for any use of FreeBSD as a host system, it's the only game in town. I suspect that most VB users on FreeBSD use it to get access to a small number of took on Windows...the ones in Office. It's still better than either LibreOffice or OpenOffice.org for either documents or presentations, especially presentations that will be displayed on a Windows system (as most are). -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com
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