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Date:      Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:39:53 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        hiren panchasara <hiren@strugglingcoder.info>
Cc:        Harrison Grundy <harrison.grundy@astrodoggroup.com>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything
Message-ID:  <93307065-F026-42DE-A2D2-3843619BAD1A@mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <20150303173223.GQ95752@strugglingcoder.info>
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> On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:32 AM, hiren panchasara <hiren@strugglingcoder.info> w=
rote:
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>> On 03/02/15 at 07:33P, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>=20
>>>>=20
>>=20
>> Actually I want to shame third party ports into adopting libxo (or at lea=
st providing machine readable output).=20
>>=20
>> I know it's scary to try to lead the pack, after all we could be wrong, b=
ut maybe it's time to try something new and see what happens.=20
>>=20
>> And no, your idea doesn't make sense it just will lead to those files bit=
 rotting. =20
>>=20
>> Bedsides that you don't even have a real spec other than "it should be do=
ne differently".=20
>>=20
>> Again, show the code.
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> Wow. He told you want he didn't like and he moved on. I hope/wish we as
> a project can take criticism more positively than this.
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> Answer to every criticism should not be "show me your code". We (should)
> know better than that.

Maybe I am too old school but the motd on freefall is still "now shut up and=
 code". I still believe that's right. =20

We ALL need to know when to step back from an issue we really do not have th=
e bandwidth to constructively contribute to.=20

This doesn't mean ideas or concerns aren't valid, but that unless you truly h=
ave the bandwidth to contribute, taking a step back is a good idea.=20

-Alfred.=20



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