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Date:      Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:15:44 -0400
From:      "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com>
To:        Marko =?UTF-8?Q?Cupa=C4=87?= <marko.cupac@mimar.rs>, Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: (once again) freebsd-update cron and man whatis
Message-ID:  <1439295344.1134.11.camel@michaeleichorn.com>
In-Reply-To: <20150811114839.211c4a0e@efreet>
References:  <20150811092154.0252ba46@efreet> <55C9B2C8.6020406@freebsd.org> <20150811114839.211c4a0e@efreet>

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On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 11:48 +0200, Marko Cupa=C4=87 wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:31:04 +0100
> Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> > On 08/11/15 08:21, Marko Cupa=C4=87 wrote:
> >=20
> > > - Next morning I get notification from freebsd-cron for the same
> > > update I installed yesterday, but only for /usr/share/man/whatis.
> > > (not ok)
> >=20
> > Did you by any chance happend to run the weekly/320.makewhatis
> > periodic script that night?   It is enabled by default.  However, you
> > shouldn't need it if you maintain your system entirely through
> > freebsd-update.
>=20
> Hi Matthew,
>=20
> thank you for looking into it. I do maintain most of my systems
> entirely through freebsd-update, but with modified freebsd-update.conf
> so that it does not fetch sources.
>=20
> I have two systems which are redownloading /usr/share/man/whatis since
> Sunday update to -p17. Would things be clearer if I ran
> weekly/320.makewhatis and observed if that prevented re-downloads?
>=20
> What would be long-term solution for this? I
> guess /usr/share/man/whatis is compiled from src. As I have removed
> 'src' from freebsd-update.conf, and I have nothing under /usr/src,
> should I add /usr/share/man/whatis to IgnorePaths? I see it is already
> there for IDSIgnorePaths.
>=20
> Regards,

I too have freebsd-update cron trying to replace /usr/share/man/whatis on
a subset of my installs. I presume that the 320.makewhatis is generating
the new whatis, but the 320.makewhatis is more complete.

# diff whatis.freebsdupdate whatis.makewhatis
365a366
> bcd(6), ppt(6)           - reformat input as punch cards or paper tape
471a473
> caesar(6), rot13(6)      - decrypt caesar ciphers
848a851
> factor(6), primes(6)     - factor a number, generate primes
942a946
> fortune(6)               - print a random, hopefully interesting, adage
1143a1148
> grdc(6)                  - grand digital clock (curses)
1886a1892
> morse(6)                 - reformat input as morse code
2093a2100
> number(6)                - convert Arabic numerals to English
2379a2387
> pom(6)                   - display the phase of the moon
2536a2545
> random(6)                - random lines from a file or random numbers
2956a2966
> strfile(8), unstr(8)     - create a random access file for storing
strings

This is what I get on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE which I have
only ever administered with freebsd-update and pkgng.

I also note all of these including strfile(8) and unstr(8) reside in
/usr/games.

I would like to echo Marko's question what is the 'correct' way to handle
this situation?

Regards,
Michael B. Eichorn
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