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Date:      Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:22:02 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        mike@karels.net
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>, "cem@freebsd.org" <cem@freebsd.org>, gjb@freebsd.org, "Pokala, Ravi" <rpokala@panasas.com>, ghapiro@freebsd.org, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Subject:   Re: Sendmail deprecation ?
Message-ID:  <72480.1512638522@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <201712070416.vB74GhD8050840@mail.karels.net>
References:  <201712070416.vB74GhD8050840@mail.karels.net>

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In message <201712070416.vB74GhD8050840@mail.karels.net>, Mike Karels writes:
>> ... A stub like pkg that could install a package, providing the 
>> user with a list to choose from, possibly timing out after a short period 
>> of time to install the dma pkg (or port) makes the most sense to me and 
>> should be a good compromise for all.
>
>Without specifying a mechanism, I agree that providing a menu would be
>good.  I don't think it should time out.

The majority of installed FreeBSD systems would never see a menu
in bsdinstaller(8).

We should talk about what "make release" does, because that is the
common basis for almost all install methods of FreeBSD:  bsdinstall(8),
nanobsd(8), diskless(8), jail(8) etc. etc.

Cron(8) and periodic(8) need local delivery to work, so the plain
"make release" should install dma(8) so local delivery works.

I don't care if bsdinstall(8) offers MTA configuration menus or
not, and that decision or lack thereof should not hold up replacing
sendmail(8) with dma(8).

And good riddance to sendmail(8):  Life is too short for sendmail.cf

Poul-Henning

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