Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:50:28 +0200 From: "M. Mader" <mma@darktemple.ch> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Docker Message-ID: <26E38B1E-5596-4AD3-AF5B-368695DE98C7@darktemple.ch> In-Reply-To: <20230329065659.f4b82fd593b924119a66cfd2@sohara.org> References: <CA%2B%2B4CRnbS5WoOqYM=2y-FS9o29%2B-oJou45gGtjUY5pSHn=1viQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAFYkXjkr9w5ujft0Z=VOT8XEbnPz=ZJ7kGb1YQZ0epyJ-490Tw@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B%2B4CR=s6y%2Bv5h38dNwu9QBj8iLrvFvFqoMe81ei7yR38JF=2w@mail.gmail.com> <20230329065659.f4b82fd593b924119a66cfd2@sohara.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Isn't podman in the ports? That's docker, but open source. It also supports containers without needing root. Or ist that based on the linux emulation layer? Am 29. März 2023 07:56:59 MESZ schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>: >On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000 >Hosney Osman <hosneybinosman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> great information for me is Jails and Bhyve alternative for Docker in >> FreeBSD > > This is not the case! > > Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC). > > Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms. > > The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and >cbsd. None of them provide the layered images approach to composing that >docker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug >and play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your >servers). They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails >(which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers). > >> are there any alternative for kubernetes also > > No - there is nothing else like kubernetes and until recently it >had a hard coded dependency on docker. That has now gone and a port of >kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails as containers should be >possible. The convenient plug and play distributed application component >library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD may be a starting point (that >would cast bastille into the role that docker plays on Linux for >kubernetes). > >-- >Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> > [-- Attachment #2 --] <html><head></head><body>Isn't podman in the ports? That's docker, but open source. It also supports containers without needing root.<br><br>Or ist that based on the linux emulation layer?<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 29. März 2023 07:56:59 MESZ schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <pre dir="auto" class="k9mail">On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000<br>Hosney Osman <hosneybinosman@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">great information for me is Jails and Bhyve alternative for Docker in<br>FreeBSD<br></blockquote><br> This is not the case!<br><br> Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC).<br><br> Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms.<br><br> The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and<br>cbsd. None of them provide the layered images approach to composing that<br>docker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug<br>and play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your<br>servers). They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails<br>(which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers).<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">are there any alternative for kubernetes also<br></blockquote><br> No - there is nothing else like kubernetes and until recently it<br>had a hard coded dependency on docker. That has now gone and a port of<br>kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails as containers should be<br>possible. The convenient plug and play distributed application component<br>library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD may be a starting point (that<br>would cast bastille into the role that docker plays on Linux for<br>kubernetes).<br><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>help
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