Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2026 08:08:20 -0800 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>, freebsd-test@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Misc. as part of usage testing Message-ID: <3d5b2b1c-b74d-457a-a5b1-2102c1c51b0d@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20260111155702.8bf1f71bcf657c355007563d@gmail.com> References: <ed0b1cfc-f1f1-40e3-a628-950aeb0bf311@yahoo.com> <f50a134c-ead8-43f6-aceb-07abfc483518@yahoo.com> <db83d9d2-e74a-4008-9c7e-277c95954037@yahoo.com> <1120fc06-36c8-439f-b439-fb33703e8535@yahoo.com> <20260110174324.48bb6e44408f8ee501341561@gmail.com> <966d8d30-6044-4f6e-b4b7-1e459c105c98@yahoo.com> <20260111155702.8bf1f71bcf657c355007563d@gmail.com>
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On 1/11/26 04:57, Anton Shepelev wrote: > Mark Millard to Anton Shepelev: > >>> While posting via Gmane, you should only use the Newsgroups: >>> header, as I do in this reply. >> >> Such messages never show up on the list for my >> context/configuration, not even days later. > > I see two messages that you have been able to sumbit via NNTP, > without the help of your e-mail account. The first one is: > > X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ > Subject: Re: Misc. as part of usage testing > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 09:49:28 -0800 > Message-ID: <f50a134c-ead8-43f6-aceb-07abfc483518@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > and the second one is: > > X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ > Subject: Re: Misc. as part of usage testing > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:24:05 -0800 > Message-ID: <db83d9d2-e74a-4008-9c7e-277c95954037@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > The are both archived: > > <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/2026-January/000344.txt>; > <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-test/2026-January/000345.txt>; > > After that, all of your messages seem to be have been coming by > way of SMTP, because they have no X-Injected-Via-Gmane: header. > Do you remember how you posted those first two, or maybe they > are stored in your outbox for you to consult? This was a > working setup. > > > In the message sequence that I sent, of which those two are part, there was a prior message that never showed up on the list: the first one of the sequence. It was sent Date:Sun, 4 Jan 2026 21:15:58 -0800. Note how all the messages in that sequence on the list have "Re:" in the subject. The first message did not. I have recently sent out 3 independent messages: Subject: Test with only Newsgroup Date:Sun, 11 Jan 2026 06:56:48 -0800 Not delivered after over 2 hrs Subject: Test with Newgroup and To, To not being to the newsgroup Date:Sun, 11 Jan 2026 06:58:27 -0800 To: was delivered almost immediately Newsgroup: not delivered after over 2 hrs Subject: Test with Newsgroup and To, both being to the list Date:Sun, 11 Jan 2026 06:59:35 -0800 Both: was delivered almost immediately All 3 show up in Sent. None show up in Outbox. It does seem that logs may be the only way to see more about what is happening for such. I do have list exchanges helping folks where I would not want a 0.5hr latency in the message going out: Other people some times read and help as well. Delaying their reading would not be good. -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.comhome | help
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