Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:35:38 +0100 From: Lexi Winter <lexi@le-fay.org> To: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> Cc: pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 15.0 pkgbase, heads up: cron, lpr packages Message-ID: <Zir22g9vThtlhldL@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> In-Reply-To: <21a2c14ec1286aa2e8e2e84712db7228@bsdforge.com> References: <ZimTWK-Y2v0u2Nq3@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> <2e3d33b6d98d1ab86686aeb75ea6e94c@bsdforge.com> <ZiroZFaBQDFXVKNI@ilythia.eden.le-fay.org> <21a2c14ec1286aa2e8e2e84712db7228@bsdforge.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Chris: > On 2024-04-25 16:33, Lexi Winter wrote: > > it's not essential: many jails don't need cron, for example. i have > > several micro (service) jails that only run a single binary and don't > > need many things that would be considered essential on a normal > > multi-user system. > Indeed. A jail is not a jail is not a jail. There is a myriad of tasks > and services a jail can provide for. We run some 50+ for our needs. But > I never mentioned jail in the context of "essential" services. So I'm > not sure why we're talking about it. :) well, you asked why someone would want to remove cron -- 'building a small jail' is an example of why someone might want to do that. you could already do that today by removing FreeBSD-utilities (and just keeping FreeBSD-runtime) but the problem with that is FreeBSD-utilities includes a lot of other things you might still want. so moving cron to its own package allows the user to pick and choose what they want to install with more granularity. > I'm puzzled as to the motivation to remove it from $BASE. to be clear, this only moves cron from one package (FreeBSD-utilities) to another (FreeBSD-cron) -- it's not being removed from the base system. FreeBSD-utilities is already considered a non-essential package. [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAABCAAdFiEEuwt6MaPcv/+Mo+ftDHqbqZ41x5kFAmYq9tcACgkQDHqbqZ41 x5mDhwwAiTNUzAJ5qK9GgnqjSKTTgp2f/Il8VM2I73Blbw1A0Qn3PcSi5Mv/HDjH nabkMM9IdO7B3Ti52zrYCHFexnp7rjKm3J5NGREFEH1IpggQS1RAP4QBpzc6Ui3I giWfnkmxeBWkQUlSgIn1rNH8xNdtTDSdqZlaTakiU+TjKrW/CUsTClvByJUUevVo nZ4PAxQ1j3knwyM9wB3ac9bCRLbOiyMsoJ8E9e8zc/clOcNmWblX8Hhv+GpeF7pV nasFYtus/YHcSFXz73s0y4bTkB5yEVlcogqNyLHcVAkwtuJyOaAWt+q3rwl9FXze zS0Q84HucZUm4ytMIzbqLFWgPrKberl9Q+lNEtmtlVZlltbSWgauQyTzFQ3Qjr85 kBZgrKXPIY8pIP7iKwQCodqhYxBhwhSPkf+96XgvQ6HvRh/xye8LZEaxu45v8vgJ U4HDkYNh2Jy7njBBBVAQJcnR/5f4TQHPV0BEnOEf0pJ/Ly5UvsD9mKerMYaeHXaI d0xBIivl =vl6E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----help
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