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Date:      Tue, 5 Dec 2017 16:00:11 -0800
From:      Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au>, Gordon Tetlow <gordon@tetlows.org>
Subject:   Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs
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On 12/05/17 15:30, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> The CA conglomerate is broken, trojaned and backdoored, and documented
> as such, and therefore HTTPs is a potempkin shell of security.
>
> Until HTTPS has something more trustworthy than the CA conglomerate
> to distribute keys, it is no safer in any respect than plain HTTP.


You are wrong. https with all its problems is still safer. If I am 
browsing through Tor, any exit node operator can easily perform a MITM 
attack in case of http, which they generally can't do in case of https. 
In case of https he needs to be a state actor privy to the CA compromise.


Yuri




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