Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 05:10:20 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no> To: John Kelly <jak@cetlink.net> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/ijb - Imported sources Message-ID: <19980504051020.57951@follo.net> In-Reply-To: <354f2cb0.227976964@mail.cetlink.net>; from John Kelly on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 02:57:23AM %2B0000 References: <19980503230438.48318@follo.net> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980503205621.20104E-100000@sasami.jurai.net> <19980504032939.07389@follo.net> <354d2457.225839725@mail.cetlink.net> <19980504042649.61453@follo.net> <354e28ff.227031838@mail.cetlink.net> <19980504044244.39282@follo.net> <354f2cb0.227976964@mail.cetlink.net>
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On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 02:57:23AM +0000, John Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, 4 May 1998 04:42:44 +0200, Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
> wrote:
>
> >I can agree that there is an issue of being allowed to control what is going
> >on in your own home (which you're not, in any country that I know of).
> >However, that is _not_ the same as privacy. Please come with some form of
> >argument.
>
> It's self evident to most people that they have the right to determine
> who and what enter their home.
That's not privacy. Here's a definition:
>From WordNet (r) 1.6 [wn]:
privacy
n 1: the quality of being secluded from the presence or view of
others [syn: {privateness}, {seclusion}]
2: the condition of being concealed or hidden [syn: {privateness},
{secrecy}, {concealment}]
I had a a suspicion that what you were really attempting to say was
something like the above, which is why I re-phrased that and included it in
my reply (the one you re-replied to with "It's self evident", seemingly not
having grasped any of my comments :-(
> >If you can't come up with something that resemble a coherent argument, I
> >will still consider you to be unable to type coherently.
>
> Consider anything you like.
>
> But I will filter what information comes into my home, whether you or
> your content provider friends like it or not.
And you'll go to jail if you do that to commercial software. Sure. You're
not allowed to filter & modify individually each byte or DLL that goes into
your home. That's the way the law is WRT commercial software - it may or
may not be WRT web-pages, but with the direct word-by-word interpretation
the US use on their laws, it wouldn't suprise me.
> This argument is a dead horse. Please don't beat it any more.
Nobody has gone for the point of the argument - "Is there any good reason
for us to advertise this capability?"
I still don't think there is.
Eivind.
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