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Date:      Sat, 6 Oct 2001 02:15:56 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@atg.aciworldwide.com>, Bernd Walter <ticso@mail.cicely.de>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: uucp user shell and home directory
Message-ID:  <20011006021556.A88143@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <3BBEC895.7DDC13C4@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:02:13AM -0700
References:  <ticso@mail.cicely.de> <20011004194336.C3918@cicely20.cicely.de> <200110041814.f94IEn8f038432@atg.aciworldwide.com> <15292.43702.284147.973393@nomad.yogotech.com> <3BBD8369.835E9190@mindspring.com> <20011005130234.B79332@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEC328.BBA18D7C@mindspring.com> <20011006014817.A87811@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEC895.7DDC13C4@mindspring.com>

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On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:02:13AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > None of those things are realproblems.  I've set up the port to be
> > hosted on MASTER_SITE_LOCAL for now, but Lyndon's free to go and host
> > it wherever he likes, organise whatever community support he likes (if
> > theres nontrivial interest he could surely even get a freebsd.org
> > mailing list set up!) and the UUCP community in FreeBSD can decide the
> > future direction of that port.
> >=20
> > I'm not wasting any more time on this thread.  I've already offered
> > you my services as commit-monkey, that should be all you need.  If you
> > truly care about UUCP in FreeBSD, work with Lyndon, offer hosting
> > resources or whatever you think is needed, and together you can both
> > go and make that UUCP port the best damn UUCP port in the history of
> > the world.  Thanks!
>=20
> You are still missing the blindingly obvious.
>=20
> People who *need* UUCP have no chance in hell of being able
> to marshall hosting resources, or they damn well would not
> *need* UUCP.

Oh, for crying out loud, we've already been through this.  Only *one*
person (the maintainer) needs to have access to host the distfile.  I
know *you* have full-time IP connectivity to the internet and the
ability to host a distfile somewhere under your control.  If it's
unacceptable to you for it to be hosted on the 30-40 ftp.freebsd.org
mirror sites, then go and put it somewhere else and the port can be
changed to point to it.

The only stumbling block I see here is that it requires you to go out
and actually do some work, so as usual it will probably never happen
and you'll just keep talking about how it should have been done, until
the end of time.

Go ahead, prove me wrong -- I'd like nothing better than to finally
have hard evidence that you're capable of being useful to the project.

Kris

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