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Date:      08 Apr 2002 09:43:54 -0700
From:      swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Abuses of the BSD license?
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes:

> "Proprietary", in this case, means:
> 
> 	something that is used, produced, or marketed under
> 	exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker;
> 	specifically : a drug (as a patent medicine) that is
> 	protected by secrecy, patent, or copyright against
> 	free competition as to name, product, composition,
> 	or process of manufacture

That agrees with the 10 or so dictionaries I've seen (though most are
more general and only imply those concepts by using the word "own").
(One problem: the proprietor need not be an inventor or maker; he
often is simply a purchaser of the rights.)

> When code embodying trade secrets is licensed to a third party,
> trade secrets are different than patents or copyrights, in that
> the licensing of the code makes the licensee a propritor as well
> (unless the license was written by a total idiot).

Not according to your definition above.  Those licensees are granted
non-exclusive rights, and so don't meet your definition's requirement
regarding "exclusive legal right" while only the proprietor has the
exclusive rights required by your definition.  (It is possible to
license away your exclusive rights (so you may be excluded), but that's
uncommon and not what you were referring to (see your "as well").)

> If you come down to it, actually, the attempts at extension of trade
> secret law to attempt to include stautory damages is actually a
> bigger threat than software patents.

So if you violate my copyright license condition of use that requires
you keep my secrets, then I may sue you for copyright infrigement which
gives a me better deal in court.  And maybe I'll also sue you for the
trade secret disclosure too.  Interesting.  But it makes more sense than
being allowed to sue you for publishing benchmark results.

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