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Date:      Sun, 16 Jun 2002 17:21:03 +1000 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Maxime Henrion <mux@FreeBSD.ORG>, <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: duplicate -ffreestanding in kernel build
Message-ID:  <20020616171444.N3623-100000@gamplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <3D0C22CB.A3DD0EA8@mindspring.com>

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On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:

> Bruce Evans wrote:
> printf( <const string>); -> pusts( <const string>);
>
> > > That is an incredibly *fugly* "optimization".  It assumes that I
> > > use libc, unless I have "-ffreestanding", and it assumes my
> > > implementation of printf vs. puts.
> >
> > This is a routine optimization.  It assumes that you use a C compiler
> > (printf and even libc might not exist, since they might be builtins).
> > A non-routine optimization might involve building hardware to run the
> > application and emitting the 1 bit instruction to turn the hardware on.
>
> It's routine to assume that I'm going to use libc?!?

No.  It is routine to assume that users use a library that meets the
compiler's requirements (the compiler gets to decide, not the users;
it is only constrained by the relevant standards and historical
(mal)practice).

Bruce


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