Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Message-ID: <20020709232917.X5990-100000@master.gorean.org> In-Reply-To: <3D2A3E73.8A6BFA16@mindspring.com>
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Doug Barton wrote:
> > > If it's good to put metadata in a file seperate from the data it
> > > describes, then the judgement of "goodness" is universal.
> >
> > This I disagree with. Insert obligatory quote about "foolish consistency."
> >
> > > We do this because it makes the data and metadata non-severable,
> >
> > See a later post by me on this thread where I clearly state severability
> > as a specific, and desirable goal for this application.
>
> Insert obligatory quote about "1 0wn y00r b0x". 8-).
Blah... it would be very easy to make sure that the right two things are
matched up. Also, if there are no instructions for what to do in the
metadata file, there is no danger.
> I give: What are the benefits of having to downlaod multiple
> files, rather than a single file, via HTTP protocol?
Well, for one we avoid all the ugly arguments about why we need to encode
the metadata into archive/compressor/tarball/blahblah format X. Two, we
allow users to see and view the files without having to "download"
anything. Three, we can upgrade metadata seperately from the binaries when
one changes but the other doesn't need to. Those are off the top of my
head.
> But be aware that we may have different ideas of the problem space...
That's why I think we should still be discussing THAT, instead of possible
solutions. One of the problems with this group is that everyone is eager
to be the one who fixes things....
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