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Date:      Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:49:03 -0800
From:      Jason Evans <jasone@freebsd.org>
To:        Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Virtual memory consumption (both user and kernel) in modern	CURRENT
Message-ID:  <1091E3C1-1E93-4030-9097-D28C780F9D44@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <43F6174A.7060801@rogers.com>
References:  <20060215024339.N22450@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <43F29BF5.4060300@freebsd.org> <20060216123548.GA35910@uk.tiscali.com> <20060216135138.GA16669@flame.pc> <43F525A6.3080701@rogers.com> <20060217013039.GA31540@xor.obsecurity.org> <43F6174A.7060801@rogers.com>

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On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:23:50PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote:
>>
>>> And what am i trading off here? I have "/etc/malloc.conf@ -> ajz"  
>>> and my
>>> memory usage has gone up the roof. My system used to be swap  
>>> free, and now its swapping over 40 MB. Can someone explain to me  
>>> why this new malloc is better? I don't see any speed improvements.
>>
>> It's a couple of orders of magnitude faster for threaded binaries.
>> See earlier posts by the author for extensive discussion.
>
> Great, too bad only 2% of my applications are threaded. I just  
> don't see this change very positively, using 40MB of swap, where  
> before was none does not seem to me like a speed improvement. I'm  
> all for better performance of threaded apps, but the trade off  
> seems too high.

Are redzones enabled?  (They are turned on by default in CURRENT.)   
You can check by reading the output from something like:

	MALLOC_OPTIONS=P ls

Keep in mind that they use up substantial extra memory -- 32 bytes  
per allocation.  Unless you have disabled redzones, you should expect  
much higher memory usage with jemalloc than with phkmalloc.

Thanks,
Jason



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