Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 15:57:36 +1000 From: David Nugent <davidn@datalinktech.com.au> To: "J. T. farmer" <jfarmer@goldsword.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released Message-ID: <446423D0.8040509@datalinktech.com.au> In-Reply-To: <44641D1C.2070106@goldsword.com> References: <44600A42.7030600@samsco.org> <44601F4A.9070802@elischer.org> <446021DE.6040507@rogers.com> <20060511210912.GA1344@zaphod.nitro.dk> <4463DC96.70908@rogers.com> <446402BB.7050201@alumni.rice.edu> <44640422.1000006@rogers.com> <44641D1C.2070106@goldsword.com>
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J. T. farmer wrote: > Mike Jakubik wrote: > >> Jonathan Noack wrote: >> >>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake. This wasn't >>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues" >>> thing. It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten. C'est >>> la vie. It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date >>> version of >>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update >>> it. >> >> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release >> notes, not some on line version. > > *Plonk* > > You've just entered into my "do not read" bucket. If you can't see > that errors occur, then I pity _anyone_ who codes for you... Or > perhaps you never make a mistake. That must be it. While I tend to agree with regards to poor attitude (see similar threads in almost any open source forum on the topic of "demanding" anything from a volunteer project), Mike is obviously quite passionate about and has the interests of FreeBSD at heart, and for that I cannot blame him at all. He seems to have a disagreement with handling of the release process, which is the same recurring issue every time there is a release and probably the #1 cause of burnout with the Release Engineer of the day. Historically, you can see that the current process works though, even if it may not produce the 100% perfect -RELEASE it at least guards against more serious problems that have happened in the past that were introduced by last minute and untested changes. Regards, David PS: cc -hackers removed
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