Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:36 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org> To: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd Message-ID: <200702100306.38076.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <45CCEC2A.7070800@isp.com> References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <45CCEC2A.7070800@isp.com>
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--nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 9. February 2007 22:48, John Walthall wrote: > Because of known problems with=20 > PPPD, KPPP should provide at least the option of using user land PPP. > You may of course differ from this view. However, unless a large outcry > arises, I will not close the bug. I think that it is, in-fact a bug. > Bugs are sometimes a bit subjective. The KPPP Developers can always > ignore me. No, bugs are not 'a bit subjective'. With just a little actual analysis and= =20 straight thinking it is very easy to determine what is a bug and where the= =20 bug is. The fact that KPPP does not support ppp(8) is not a bug, it is a missing=20 feature. If you want to request a feature, you open a wish, not a bug, you= =20 word it nicely and preferably attach some code that implements that feature= ,=20 because this is how community-driven open source development works. Did it= =20 ever cross your mind that the KPPP developer(s) might not even use FreeBSD? The fact that machines panic or freeze when KPPP is used is not a bug in KP= PP=20 either, because KPPP is nothing but a front-end to the software that causes= =20 the problem. By principle, a kernel panic or freeze is never an application= 's=20 fault, because the kernel should never panic and never freeze, no matter wh= at=20 an application does. Therefore, the bug report needs to go into FreeBSD's=20 bugtracker (someone else already filed one, see my previous mails for the=20 URL), not KDE's. All that your "bug report" accomplishes is broadcasting your bad and=20 uninformed attitude to an even bigger audience. It is in your own and the=20 =46reeBSD community's best interest to backtrack before anyone gets to form= a=20 negative opinion on both. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFzSiuXhc68WspdLARAtwZAJ94j8/M9tDX/jKSHYj+OuVMvHvYFwCcD59B sQmYuUA5JXka9szeNchgms4= =PcJQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I--
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