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Date:      Sun, 8 May 2011 12:53:02 +0300
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>
Cc:        emulation@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
Subject:   Re: pls review: dummy handlers for linux wlan ioctls
Message-ID:  <20110508095302.GU48734@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <4DC653A0.8080405@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <4DC5157E.2020606@FreeBSD.org> <20110508083909.00003ef4@unknown> <4DC653A0.8080405@FreeBSD.org>

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On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 11:26:08AM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 08/05/2011 09:39 Alexander Leidinger said the following:
> > On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:48:46 +0300 Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> The purpose of this code is just to reduce amount of noise produced
> >> when some software uses those ioctls (e.g. newer Skype).  All ioctls
> >> return ENOTSUP.
> > 
> > Not a review, just a question: Do we want to decide that we will not
> > implement those ioctl's in the linuxulator?
> 
> I haven't heard about anyone planning to implement them or needing them.
> But that doesn't imply any decision, of course.
> 
> > If the answer is yes, I'm OK with a patch like yours going in. If the
> > answer is no, I object to such a patch, as it would hide the missing
> > functionality.
> 
> Well, it could be argued that if anyone really needs that functionality he will
> sure notice that it is missing even without the kernel messages.
> 
> > If you want to shut up an application regarding this, I suggest to
> > write a wrapper-ioctl which is then used with LD_PRELOAD, if you provide
> > the source and makefile, I'm willing to compile it in my F10 VM for
> > you.
> 
> I am not sure if I want these complexities (at the moment).
> I can just keep the patch to myself :-)
> 
> > Out of curiosity: what is skype doing with direct wlan calls?
> 
> No idea.  It seems that it tries to get a wlan name at the very least (maybe
> it's just a way to test if an interface is wireless).  Maybe they explain why
> they do it somewhere.

I remember skype sells wireless access worldwide. For some networks,
it allows your to pay from your skype account.

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