Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:54:15 +0200
From:      Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r230545 - head/sys/boot/forth
Message-ID:  <4F213EE7.2090207@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <4F212F7F.3050301@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201201251836.q0PIa1sl037892@svn.freebsd.org> <4F205673.30907@FreeBSD.org> <4F206B8B.30207@FreeBSD.org> <4F2075AF.2030900@FreeBSD.org> <4F212F7F.3050301@FreeBSD.org>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
on 26/01/2012 12:48 Doug Barton said the following:
> On 01/25/2012 13:35, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>> on 25/01/2012 22:52 Doug Barton said the following:
>>> On 01/25/2012 11:22, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>>>> I have this crazy idea that we should remove the 'Safe Boot' and "ACPI' options
>>>> from the default boot menu (on platforms where they are present).
>>>
>>> IMO better labels on the menu would be a better option here. The ACPI
>>> option in particular is important for some users who have broken ACPI.
>>
>> Well, from my experience, nowadays it's a 99% chance that a PC simply won't work
>> at all without ACPI.  However broken it might be.
>> Not sure if better labels can be of any help with that :-)
> 
> I'm not sure that removing an option that some of our users still need
> is a good idea. 

I don't imagine that any users have to change things via loader menu each time
they boot.  loader.conf will still be there.

> But I'm not in charge of anything. :)

That's OK.

>>>> Besides, 'Safe Boot' seems to be already somewhat undermined by rc.d/kld.
>>>
>>> If there is a way to signal that down to userspace I'm happy to modify
>>> the behavior of the script.
>>
>> Maybe this gets propagated via kenv.
> 
> Sorry I wasn't clear. If you (or someone else) can show me how to
> definitively determine, at the time that rc.d/kld is run, whether the
> user chose the "Safe Boot" option I'm happy to change the behavior of
> the script accordingly.

Boot with and without the option and compare kenv output?

>> In this case changing a label to something like "Enable loading of configured
>> kernel modules" could be an improvement.
> 
> Not sure what you meant there, sorry.

That's OK.

-- 
Andriy Gapon



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?4F213EE7.2090207>