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Date:      Mon, 2 Jul 2012 14:52:06 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Peter Ulrich Kruppa <ulrich@pukruppa.de>
To:        j.m.cooper@borgsdemons.com
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: KMS Question
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1207021445580.60536@pukruppa.de>
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:

> On 07/02/12 02:58, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa <ulrich@pukruppa.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, July 02, 2012 11:13:56 AM Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 02, 2012 10:16:43 AM Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> please correct me, if I misunderstood something about KMS .
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I built xorg-7.7 on FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 11 23:48:45
>>>>>>>> CEST 2 amd64 .
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I do a plain
>>>>>>>>          # startx
>>>>>>>> (no xorg.conf set) I receive
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do this:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sudo kldload i915kms
>>>>>>> sudo kldload acpi_call
>>>>>>> sudo chmod 666 /dev/acpi
>>>>>>> startx
>>>>>> Actually this is my question: I cannot kldload these two modules
>>>>>> because I don't have them. I believed I wouldn't need them since
>>>>>> I don't have any Intel-chipset. Do I need them anyway?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ok, then we need more information. What kind of machine do you have? CPU
>>>>> and GPU?
>>>> I have got an amd64 CPU and some ATI Radeon graphics chip. As far as I
>>> have
>>>> heard the latter isn't well supported, but I don't mind for now: It
>>> should
>>>> at least be able to run the default vesa driver.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> To my knowledge, KMS needs an Intel i3, i5 or i7 to work. You cannot use
>>>>> KMS with all other CPUs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You also do not need it if you have another GPU you want to use it in
>>> the
>>>>> system.
>>>> So I have to patch my base system anyway?
>>>> Where can I get the latest patches?
>>>> 
>>>> Peter.
>>>> 
>>>>> Erich
>>>>> 
>>> 11 June is just about the date that the updates were all merged into
>>> 9-Stable. I suggesting updating sources to at least 15 Jun (or, better
>>> still, today) and buidl that. No additional patches are needed. DO NOT
>>> SET "WITH_KMS"! KMS is ONLY for Intel CPU/GPU processors. You can give
>>> it a try WITH_NEW_XORG, though. If you don't have KMS, you will not
>>> have i915-kms.ko, so don't worry. (Maybe someone will volunteer to
>> write an AMD/ATi KMS driver some day, but no one has to date.)
>>> You might try an initial startx with no Xorg.conf file. It usually
>>> works. You probably won't have a need for acpi_call, either, and it is
>>> from the acpi_call port and not part of the base system. It lets you
>>> poke at ACPI paramters.
O.K. - so first I try to rebuild base. I have already got 
WITH_NEW_XORG in my /etc/make.conf . Support for AMD/ATI can't be 
worse than it was with xorg-7.5 . For now I would be happy to get 
some kind of gui back - even with VESA driver.

Thanks for your help so far - I will report what happens.

Greetings

Peter.

>>> --
>>> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
>>> E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> I have WITH_KMS ( and WITH_NEW_XORG ) set on my laptop which uses the
>> nvidia binary driver. Works like a charm.
>> 
>> But I agree with proposed solution: update sources and rebuild.
>> 
>> Have you done the xorgmerge step?
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Andreas
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> I also have WITH_KMS and WITH_NEW_XORG set on my HP G7 which has an AMD 
> Vision A4 chipset and is running under the X11 vesa driver.  I built it up 
> from source after cleaning off the machine.  Works fine.
> --
> John M. Cooper
>
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