Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:31:33 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org> To: Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@FreeBSD.org> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please review, small SGML entity cleanup Message-ID: <20121229163133.GA1567@emphyrio.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <50DEEA17.90802@FreeBSD.org> References: <20121228171424.GZ69724@acme.spoerlein.net> <50DECF3E.2020502@FreeBSD.org> <20121229124833.GC69724@acme.spoerlein.net> <50DEEA17.90802@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 02:03:19PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > On 2012.12.29. 13:48, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 12:08:46 +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > >> >On 2012.12.28. 18:14, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > >>> > >The DE and FR articles are a hodgepodge of SGML entities and direct, > >>> > >8bit chars, with the former being the majority. This patch cleans this > >>> > >up a little, although we should eventually switch this all to UTF-8, > >>> > >obviously. > >> >Don't they work with direct chars? Once we made a step to that direction > > They probably will, and I have no clue why we used entities for German > > and French, but the usual encodings for Russian and Japanese, etc. > > > >> >so this one would be one step back. If possible, it would be better to > >> >convert the entities to direct chars instead of the opposite. > > In the end, sure. But that's a larger project of moving from > > de_DE.ISO8859-1 -> de_DE (with an implied UTF-8 encoding, as is required > > by XML anyway, the implied part, not the exact encoding). > It isn't required by XML. If you omit the encoding part of the XML > declaration, the content is treated as UTF-8 but it is not a requirement > at all. > > > > I don't think this commit is a step back, because the documents need to > > be converted using a long series of s/ü/ü/g, anyway. And the > > current mish-mash is just weird. > I don't see any reason why we cannot do this conversion right now in > ISO-8859-1. (Actually, I did, but people kept introducing new redundant > entities.) ISO-8859-1 isn't any harder to type than UTF-8. If you want > consistency (which imho isn't that important at this point since there > are lots of upcoming changes) then why not move to the right direction > of consistency? > I'm currently working on a translation without entities and everything is fine (see http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html). It's "pure" ISO-8859-1. -- Marc
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