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Date:      Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:24:20 -0400
From:      David Scranton <davidsghost2@gmail.com>
To:        =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@freebsd.org>
Cc:        David Greenman-Lawrence <dg@dglawrence.com>,  Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>,  freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature
Message-ID:  <CAGFmXzQWm9-n5B56BnDPvzs0qdRfyr5x-0sO5kvt4GjXLrdb_g@mail.gmail.com>
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Just a brief note from a new, nontechnical user.  I actually appreciate the
energetic debates because they are educating me about fbsd and its
philosophy - not to mention warning me about treacherous shoals.

David Scranton

On Sat, Aug 9, 2025, 8:10 AM Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@freebsd.org> wrote:

> David Greenman-Lawrence <dg@dglawrence.com> writes:
> > FWIW, I do have an opinion on this: I think that "pkg delete -af" is a
> > useful thing that should not destroy your base system.
>
> If you want to delete all packages that aren't vital to the system's
> functioning, just run `pkg delete -a`.  That will leave you with
> whatever packages were locked or marked vital (normally FreeBSD-clibs
> and FreeBSD-runtime, which contain the most important libraries and
> binaries) plus pkg itself (because pkg is hardcoded to never delete
> itself unless forced to).
>
> DES
> --
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org
>
>

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<div dir="auto">Just a brief note from a new, nontechnical user.  I actually appreciate the energetic debates because they are educating me about fbsd and its philosophy - not to mention warning me about treacherous shoals.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">David Scranton</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 9, 2025, 8:10 AM Dag-Erling Smørgrav &lt;<a href="mailto:des@freebsd.org">des@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">David Greenman-Lawrence &lt;<a href="mailto:dg@dglawrence.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dg@dglawrence.com</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt; FWIW, I do have an opinion on this: I think that &quot;pkg delete -af&quot; is a<br>
&gt; useful thing that should not destroy your base system.<br>
<br>
If you want to delete all packages that aren&#39;t vital to the system&#39;s<br>
functioning, just run `pkg delete -a`.  That will leave you with<br>
whatever packages were locked or marked vital (normally FreeBSD-clibs<br>
and FreeBSD-runtime, which contain the most important libraries and<br>
binaries) plus pkg itself (because pkg is hardcoded to never delete<br>
itself unless forced to).<br>
<br>
DES<br>
-- <br>
Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@FreeBSD.org<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
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