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Date:      Sat, 23 May 2026 11:58:00 -0400
From:      Mike <the.lists@mgm51.com>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Update for 14.3 when it is out of date - not pretty
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I did not run freebsd-update upgrade.  I ran "fetch" then "install" with 
no "upgrade". Perhaps that was my problem.

I do agree that the message was poorly worded (imo, understatement).

 > what it's saying is that you need to upgrade
 > your ports or packages before running `freebsd-update install`

Is that the regular procedure when using freebsd-update?  i.e., ...

    freebsd-update fetch
    freebsd-update upgrade
    freebsd-update install

?


The man page for freebsd-update says that "upgrade" is used when 
upgrading to a new release.  It makes no mention of using "upgrade" when 
updating a current release.  If I run it when I am doing an update for a 
current release, will it upgrade me to a new release?

Thanks for the reply.



On 5/22/2026 2:59 PM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> That message only appears after you run `freebsd-update upgrade`, then
> run `freebsd-update install` once to upgrade the kernel, then run
> `freebsd-update install` a second time to upgrade the userland.  It's
> somewhat poorly worded but what it's saying is that you need to upgrade
> your ports or packages before running `freebsd-update install`



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