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Date:      Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:25:52 -0800 (PST)
From:      Jeff Roberson <jroberson@chesapeake.net>
To:        Josh Carroll <josh.carroll@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ULE vs. 4BSD in RELENG_7
Message-ID:  <20071102102331.G544@10.0.0.1>
In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0710251925s2db0117cvcb67321b08d7b2a1@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Josh Carroll wrote:

>> I'm confident that we can improve things.  It will probably not make the
>> cut for 7.0 since it will be too disruptive.  I'm sure it can be
>> backported before 7.1 when ULE is likely to become the default.
>
> That sounds great! I figured it was something that would have to wait
> until 7.0 released. I completely understand that.
>
>> I hope that we can continue to work together to verify any fixes I may
>> come up with.
>
> Absolutely! Just let me know how I can help. If you need a guinea
> pig...er...tester :) I'll be glad to help!
>

Could you try spot checking a couple of tests with kern.sched.slice set to 
half its present value?  4BSD on average will use half the slice that ULE 
will by default.

> Another thing I noticed between ULE and 4BSD is my core temperatures
> seem erratic on ULE. I use RRDtool with the new coretemp(4) feature
> and noticed the temperatures are spiking a lot with ULE, and generally
> slightly higher than when running a 4BSD kernel. I don't know if
> that's significant or not. Just something I noticed when I modified my
> RRD scripts to use coretemp.
>
> For a side-by-side comparison, see this page:
>
> http://pflog.net/~floyd/fbsd_sched.html

This is interesting.  I have had a couple of laptop users report success 
in using lower power saving modes with ULE.  Are these core temp 
observations repeatable?

Thanks,
Jeff

>
> Thanks again for all your help! Please let me know if/when I can do
> anything else to help out.
>
> Regards,
> Josh
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