Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:36:13 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@theinternet.com.au>, Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current && vinum problems?)) Message-ID: <20010816173613.C15022@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <92058.997936605@critter>; from phk@critter.freebsd.dk on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 06:36:45AM %2B0200 References: <20010816094735.F49989@wantadilla.lemis.com> <92058.997936605@critter>
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On Thursday, 16 August 2001 at 6:36:45 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20010816094735.F49989@wantadilla.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: >> On Wednesday, 15 August 2001 at 19:17:47 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0108151004540.12730-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>, Ju >>> lian Elischer writes: >>> >>>> the lack of subdirectory support is a pitty. >>> >>> There is support for subdirectories: >>> >>> ls -la /dev/fd >> >> What am I supposed to see there? I get three character devices, all >> mounted on /dev directly. > > Uhm, have you forgotten how ls(1) works ? No. > Try this then: > > ls -lad /dev/fd /dev/fd/[012] Hmm. Strange. Last time I looked, I thought I had /dev/fd0, /dev/fd1 and /dev/fd2. But I've booted a new kernel since that attempt. >> In view of the fact that this thread is about deficiencies in your >> devfs, this is particularly uncalled for. One of the reasons that >> Julian's devfs never got debugged was that you had made it very clear >> from the start that it would be removed. > > History being rewritten eh ? I spent 3+ years trying to argue his > DEVFS should be made default! They must have been before I met you, then. My very vivid recollection was that I met you at USENIX in New Orleans on 19 June 1998, and the very first thing you said was "What does Vinum do about DEVFS? Don't use it, it's going away". We (you, Justin Gibbs, Jonathan Bresler, and I, maybe also one other person, but not Julian, whom you wouldn't let participate) then found an empty room and we discussed the matter. It was an interesting first impression. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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