Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 16:48:33 -0700 From: Donald Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> To: David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation of 12.1R and 11.3R fails Message-ID: <CAEC7391PVoPo%2BgSD6a3zWYF4bGfyxpri-gRrQNGsASQMK8ZPDA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAEC7390f3b6iwwjV9Zpv5hsRbv=t81_WnFDbePwDG4V66A1z0w@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAEC7393CTQGQ=zQ7fM63iSkpdvO8R0q-q6iLWUOx4=XaYanO1A@mail.gmail.com> <d760435a-af0d-8a84-b350-43311c8e321e@holgerdanske.com> <CAEC73938_0co-Sk3JzZz10gP%2BVg6%2Bk1jWj87KJbU3_XkLU2Spg@mail.gmail.com> <f4a4889a-1e7f-b951-3d67-35994cbcf2a6@holgerdanske.com> <CAEC7390f3b6iwwjV9Zpv5hsRbv=t81_WnFDbePwDG4V66A1z0w@mail.gmail.com>
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I had to remain with the MBR-based system. GPT just flat-out did not work for me but I have got a working system and successfully updated it to 12-STABLE. I did have a glitch that led to a recursive stack crash, though, forcing a reinstall. Updating the Handbook required me to build both graphviz and vala, but neither of them would work without already having a graphviz and vala on the system. Install with 'pkg install' worked. Thanks! Happy Beastie here. On 5/23/20, Donald Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> wrote: > Mine (the laptop) is not quite 2007 vintage, although my Dell i7 > tower is. :) IIRC it's about 2012 or so. Still going fine although > it's just a HDD-based mule. Upgrading it now to 12-STABLE. > > I am using it as a "refresher" on FreeBSD; I was paid by Bob Bruce > 1998 to 2000 to do "advocacy" for FreeBSD. I orchestrated the 3-way > press conference between the FreeBSD and NetBSD projects and Apple at > the release of DARWIN... time does pass... > > I have a relative who's asked me to make a specialized social network > for his business, and I've decided to return to using FreeBSD. Not all > hosting corps will support FreeBSD servers, but since I intend to > purchase and support everything through the business, that isn't an > issue. I'll buy Intel's fancy Optane caching boards when I buy servers > for the project, and every "drive" will be SS except for a portable > boot drive. > > > On 5/23/20, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote: >> On 2020-05-22 21:43, Donald Wilde wrote: >>> Service tag 5K8W162 >>> >>> I will try using MBR instead of GPT, as you suggest. I did that once >>> the first time and no joy. Other than that and using the USB instead >>> of DVD, the only other delta in your procedure is zeroing the disk and >>> ensuring that all settings in BIOS are set to default. >>> >>> Do I need to erase my USB key and only put the key-version ISO on it? >>> Why would that be superior to using a DVD, other than the waste of >>> plastic? >>> >>> The only other possible problem I can see is that I simply named the >>> machine, and did not create a meaningless FQDN (in my NAT). >>> >>> Thank you for your answer, and I WILCO. >> >> >> >> On 2020-05-22 22:20, Clay Daniels wrote: >> > I would second all of David's suggestions, but would like to also >> recommend >> > using GParted to clear & write a new partition table, be it MBR or >> GPT. >> > GParted lets you take control of the drive. It's Gnome Partition >> Editor >> & >> > free: >> > >> > https://gparted.org/ >> >> >> >> On 2020-05-22 23:03, Manish Jain wrote: >> > I think we are using a nuclear missile to kill a mosquito ! >> > >> > The FreeBSD installer can do everything needed by itself. >> > >> > 1) Boot from the FreeBSD CD/DVD >> > >> > 2) Choose Install >> > >> > 3) At the disk setup page, choose Manual >> > >> > 4) Remove all existing partitions. When done that, press 'd' again >> (for >> > delete) with ada0 selected. That will delete the partition table >> itself. >> > >> > 5) Press 'c' (for create) to create a new MBR (DOS) partition table. >> > >> > 6) Create partitions as needed and install. >> > >> > That should be it. >> >> >> >> On 2020-05-23 02:01, D'Arcy Cain wrote: >> > [Zeroing the disk] is exactly what I found when going from Linux to >> FreeBSD. Just run >> > dd(1) with input file /dev/zero on the raw disk before starting your >> > installation. You have to completely wipe out the Linux boot blocks. >> >> >> >> On 2020-05-23 08:06, Donald Wilde wrote: >> > The MBR boot after wiping the disk was successful. YAY, Beasties! TYVM >> > for all the advice. :D >> > >> > Taking your thought to heart, D'Arcy, I'm going to try again with GPT >> > now that Linux is gone, gone, gone! :D >> >> >> I'm glad the BIOS/ MBR install worked. :-) >> >> >> That looks like a decent daily driver laptop, especially if you maxed >> out the RAM and installed a good SSD: >> >> >> https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/servicetag/0-aUlCTHJhMTkzWUs5S1dMQjN2WGdIdz090/overview >> >> >> My 2007 Inspiron E1505 gave me many years of service (with repairs and >> upgrades). It still works. >> >> >> I zero my USB flash drives before burning them with an installer image >> out of sheer OCD, but it should not be required. (I wrote a Perl script >> to only write zeros to dirty blocks, to conserve write cycles.) >> >> >> Most every x86 computer made in the last 30 years will have a USB port. >> Many newer computers, especially portable computers, do not have optical >> drives. >> >> >> It is easy to make changes to an installer on a USB flash drive, and you >> don't have to burn a disc for every edit-compile-test cycle. I hacked >> my FreeBSD USB installer to slice and partition system disks the way I >> like them. >> >> >> I have boogered installs many ways, including the hostname, FQDN, >> network name, and/or network settings. The FreeBSD installer offers you >> a root shell into the installed image near the end. If you know what >> file(s) to edit, you can fix those mistakes. Alternatively, some >> installers let you re-run specific steps. TIMTOWDI. >> >> >> I image my system disks regularly. Zero-filling them before an install >> saves image storage space. Partition editors within installers >> typically do not zero-fill. (I need to figure out how to zero unused >> blocks beneath GELI and ZFS prior to imaging; does anyone know how?) >> >> >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > -- > Don Wilde > **************************************************** > * What is the Internet of Things but a system * > * of systems including humans? * > **************************************************** > -- Don Wilde **************************************************** * What is the Internet of Things but a system * * of systems including humans? * ****************************************************
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