Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:03:10 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_Paulsen_Sk=E5lerud?= <erik@pentadon.com> To: <tony@valemount.com>, <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter Message-ID: <001b01c2328c$5a2aa670$0200000a@erikpc> References: <002401c23245$1ced2130$0100a8c0@erikpc> <3D3D6F67.5010508@ucsd.edu> <001001c2325c$42c59420$8a4c35d1@master> <001801c2326b$f1c98300$0200000a@erikpc> <0e6e01c2326c$dee98d60$114c35d1@tonyxp> <002001c23276$0eb66780$0200000a@erikpc> <0ec501c23277$d14d0d20$114c35d1@tonyxp>
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That's not exactly what I had in mind.. the setup I want is something like
this (bare with me if you don't understand)
{internet}-- [fxp0 <Firewall> fxp1] -- Wired-LAN (with clients on
100mbit) -- [fxp0 <FreeBSD> wi0 (AP)] ~~ Wireless-LAN with several clients
Now, you might understand my situation better. I want the clients on the
Wired-LAN to use the same IP-subnet as the clients on the Wireless-LAN. It
should work like just as if I would plug all the clients into the 100mbit
Wired-LAN..
Will this work?
I hope this clears things up.
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
To: <erik@pentadon.com>; <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> Depending on your situation this setup will work fine:
> {internet} -- [fxp0 <Box> wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- Laptop
>
> While this will not, because the second (clinet) box cannot be bridged.
> {internet} -- [fxp0 <Box> wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- [wi0 (Infra) <Box>
> fxp0] -- {internal network}
>
> Thanks,
> Tony Toole
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> To: <tony@valemount.com>; <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
>
>
> > Oh. Well I'm only going to have one AP in this case, if building an AP
is
> > the only solution to bridge the networks. So, I just really need to be
> sure
> > about this, the AP/Bridge can work just as a regular bridge? All
> broadcasts
> > and such gets passed through and can answer back? (My scenario is to
> connect
> > a wired LAN with a wireless LAN, and make it look like one big network,
> > because of Windows 2000 Active Directory domains and such)
> >
> > Erik.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
> > To: <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> >
> >
> > > Yes. You have to remember however that having a card acting as an AP
> > means
> > > other clients can connect to it, however your card on AP mode cannot
> > connect
> > > to another AP unless both units support wi's WDS implementation (does
it
> > > have one?).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony Toole
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> > > To: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>; <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:11 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> > >
> > >
> > > > So, If I buy a new card wich has the Prism2/Prism2.5 chipset, it can
> > work
> > > as
> > > > an AP for me -and- bridge in my 100mbit ethernet LAN? So, to say it
> the
> > > dumb
> > > > way, it will appear as a whole network (bridge)
> > > >
> > > > Erik.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
> > > > To: <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:18 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The man page for wi(4) shows how to set up a bridge, but the card
> must
> > > be
> > > > in
> > > > > pseudo-AP (HostAP) mode, which voids out Orinoco cards like you
> said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony Toole
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Eric Hedström" <erich@ucsd.edu>
> > > > > To: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> > > > > Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:59 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Erik,
> > > > > > Assuming the wi(4) page is correct when it says Prism only, that
> > rules
> > > > > > out your Orinoco card in any case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Erik Paulsen Skålerud wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello. I'm a little confused here.
> > > > > > > I want to bridge my wireless card (Orinoco/Lucent Silver
11mbit)
> > > with
> > > > my
> > > > > > > LAN-adapter (fxp0).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I read the wi(4), allmost at the end of the configuration
> > > > examples
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > says:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Create a host-based wireless bridge to fxp0 (Prism only):
> > > > > > > Add BRIDGE to the kernel config.
> > > > > > > # ifconfig wi0 inet up ssid my_ap mediaopt hostap
> > > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge=1
> > > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg="wi0 fxp0"
> > > > > > > # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> > > > > > > This will give you approximately the same functionality
as
> an
> > > > > access
> > > > > > > point.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And, when I read the bridge(4) manual page, it says:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bridging requires interfaces to be put in promiscuous
mode,
> > and
> > > > > > > transmit
> > > > > > > packets with Ethernet source addresses. Some interfaces
> > (e.g.
> > > > > wi(4))
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > not support this functionality. Also, bridging is not
> > > compatible
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > interfaces which use hardware loopback, because there is
no
> > way
> > > > to
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > > locally generated packets from externally generated ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So. Where do I stand? Can it do bridging in FreeBSD or not? I
> > tried
> > > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > it work, both in FreeBSD and Windows XP (yes, I know.) without
> any
> > > > > results.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While searching on mailinglists, I see several people saying
> that
> > > you
> > > > > need a
> > > > > > > binary firmware wich costs money so that the cards can work
with
> > > > > bridging..
> > > > > > > the reason would be that the manufactors of these chipsets
wants
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > > > > money on selling licenses to companies who want an AP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've also heard a rumour that ng_bridge(4)/netgraph can do
> > bridging
> > > > with
> > > > > > > wi(4)-devices. Is this true?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for all help, Erik.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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