Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:40:21 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Stephen Hovey" <shovey@buffnet.net>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: this spam Message-ID: <002201c17655$fbe26320$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10111252313100.21445-100000@buffnet11.buffnet.net>
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>-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Stephen Hovey >Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 8:16 PM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: this spam > > > >My two cents as a network admin who is kinda sick of this topic from a >daily issue of it in my work.. > >Use a mail program that doesnt make deleting a message, read or otherwise, >an act of gymnastics.. > >Accept that if you do anything other that mail your mom, and she NEVER >sends you and e-greeting, etc., that you will get spam... > >Never do business with a spammer.. > >Press delete, and get over it.. Its just spam.. > Today there's plenty of good tools for eliminating spam on the server. I've seen some posts from admins who claim 99.9% spam removal and I believe them after they have detailed what they do to stop it. (basically, spending a small amount of time each day improving their vast filter dictionaries) While you may have decided that letting your users continue to get spam is OK, that's your choice. However, in today's Internet environment, clearly the Right Thing to do is for spam filtering to be centralized on the mailserver, that way you don't have a thousand users re-inventing the wheel, duplicating each other's spam filters. It's illogical to argue in favor of users being responsible for spam filtration because the amount of effort they have to expend in total to deal with a single spam message is far, far greater than the effort that you, as a mailserver admin, have to expend to delete that same message for ALL of them. Spammers depend on convincing the majority of admins on the Internet to have the same fatalistic attitude that you do, in short that there's nothing that you can do about spam and so you might as well give up and blame the users for complaining about it. All your doing by posting messages of this type is postponing the day that the rest of us who are willing to do something can get the Internet cleaned up of all these spammers. While I'll be the first to say that it's your right to ignore spam, please shut the fuck up about it and stop harming the efforts of others that are working to get it reduced and eliminated, by spreading your "give up the spammers have won" attitude. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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