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Date:      Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:43:52 -0400
From:      "Romulus" <romulus007@netzero.net>
To:        "Linh Pham" <lplist@closedsrc.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Your reply!
Message-ID:  <00d001c10ae9$aa80a5a0$c450149a@romulus>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.33.0107120644100.71651-100000@q.closedsrc.org>

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Linh,
Instead of me replying to you, personally, I'll simply provide a copy of an
email I just sent out.

<<---BEGIN OF INCLUDED MESSAGE--->>
 Rahul,
Answer this one question!
Does the BSDs get the same opportunities annointed to Linux?
The answer is a resounding, "No!!!"

Did I use the "F" word or did I change the spelling to be more respectful?

The problem with you guys is that you have no clue how to get people's
attention and REALLY MAKE THEM THINK LONG AND HARD at some of their
unequitable business practices. I'm not only a developer, but I also write,
and am astute in the fine art of MARKETING.

All I hope is for these companies to open their eyes and give the BSDs a
chance to run their products natively --  nothing more, nothing less. Is
this so bad, Rahul?

And for the record, I'm a developer who works for one of the largest banks
in the world (34,000 employees) and am sick of these vendors pandering to
only to Linux even though experts agree that the BSDs are a better OVERALL
O/S.

By the way, you write and act like a typical geek when you criticize my
email client and Windows 2000 - Advanced Server O/S. After all, I still have
to put food on the table and pay for my Audi TT. Right?  So it should not be
too hard for you to understand that I'm paid to create
Delphi/PL-SQL/Java/ASP code on WINDOZE while I'm at the bank! Got it?

Drivel? I think not! Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and it requires an OUTSIDER
like me to ruffle some feathers NOW so that the FUTURE is a little brighter.
Believe it or not, I've had some very possitive comments from some vendors
so far as they can appreciate the point of view of a developer who WORKS FOR
A 200 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY and has INFLUENCE on what's PURCHASED (RDBMSs,
development tools, etc.). Got it?

Remember, Rahul, MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS! These companies only know
about revenues. I only reminded them that they could make a lot more if they
also shipped their products natively on the BSDs.
If you can't comprehend what I'm saying, then you are as STUPID as an
investor who paid $270 for a share of Red Hat stock. Did you, by the way?

Fianlly, please stay off my back! And no, I am not even near to the point of
being a BSD advocate or zealot. Hey, I have a life and see the BSDs simply
as a tool! I'd rather be chasing skirts at a night club, playing basketball
or pumping iron in the gym FOR FUN, so don't let your head get too FAT
because I'm far from being a geek!
Are you, or do you have a life?

Romulus.
******************
IT Consultant (eCommerce/Application Development)
(ASP, Java, J2EE, PHP, IIS-5, Win2K, Python, VB
SQL Server-2000, PL/SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Delphi, C++)
******************


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rahul Siddharthan" <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:05 AM
Subject: Stupid rant received via -doc list


Just who does this guy think he's helping with this sort of drivel?

Moreover, if he himself has so much respect for BSD, why can't he use
a well-behaved mail client on a respectable operating system?

I'm ccing -advocacy, not sure why, probably because such "advocates"
worry me.  At least he doesn't give an impression of speaking "for"
the project in any official sense.

R
<<---END OF INCLUDED MESSAGE--->>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linh Pham" <lplist@closedsrc.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Please have some phucking RESPECT for the BSDs!!!

I think companies will listen to the community better if the message is
in a professional and much more mature manner than what was written.
Plus _spamming_ the sales department of all of those companies won't
help, and many will just look at the subject line, frown and probably
delete it.

I don't want to speak for the community, but I think the community want
to be portrayed as a whiny, immature crowd.

>>> The reason why I included freebsd-doc was that from the mail
headers, it showed freebsd-doc as the owner of the message-id. My guess
is that freebsd-doc could have been bcc'd.

--
Linh Pham
[lplist@closedsrc.org]

// 404b - Brain not found



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