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Date:      Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:10:46 -0400
From:      dfolkins <dfolkins@comcast.net>
To:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ipfw, natd, and keep-state - strange behavior?
Message-ID:  <00d501c25a6e$92582db0$0a00a8c0@groovy3xp>
References:  <200209121456.g8CEuIVp012004@bunrab.catwhisker.org>

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well, of course that would work, but the regular tcpflags ack rules are less
restrictive.  i.e. they tend to allow all ack packets through, which opens
doors for ack-tunneling trojans, not to mention ack packet ddos.  that's why
i wanted to make all rules keep-state.  and besides, keep-state is _cool_.
:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Wolfskill" <david@catwhisker.org>
To: <dfolkins@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: ipfw, natd, and keep-state - strange behavior?


> What I did was use the stateful stuff (only) for UDP; for TCP, I used
> the "established" flag.  And I haven't seen the problems you report.
>
> Cheers,
> david
> --
> David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org
> To paraphrase David Hilbert, there can be no conflicts between the
> discipline of systems administration and Microsoft, since they have
> nothing in common.


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